A Question of Weight.

**Too Slow '90** · 03-01-2009, 08:41 AM

I recently sold an XD45 4" because I did not like the recoil. Other than that I really liked it. I really like the colt 1911 and I assumed it was because of the weight. I recently weighed a colt 1911 5" military and a 4-1/4" commander and was suprised to find the 4-1/4" was heavier by a little. Now considering that an XD 45 5" with 8 rounds is about as heavy as the 1911, why is the recoil so different? Is it because the weight is in the grip and maybe makes it feel worse? It's got me thinking that maybe I should go grab the 5" but I don't want to have turn around a sell it too....or maybe I am just thinking too much!!!

**StngStr** · 03-01-2009, 09:33 AM

generally a heavier gun will have less FELT recoil, but where the weight is on the gun can have a huge affect on felt recoil.

**tony pasley** · 03-01-2009, 11:38 AM

First Don't sell guns, Amass as many as you can. Many reasons you felt more recoil, wieght, grip angle, your grip, type of rounds you used.

**Too Slow '90** · 03-01-2009, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by tony pasley

First Don't sell guns, Amass as many as you can. Many reasons you felt more recoil, wieght, grip angle, your grip, type of rounds you used.

If memory serves you're a Colt guy. Have you shot an XD 45? I would be interested in your experience and comparison.

**gmaske** · 03-01-2009, 01:34 PM

It may have been as simple as a weak recoil spring. If the spring doesn't control the slide correctly you get either a harsh jolt as the slide slams against its stop or at the other extreme you get a failure to extract or feed. You can tune a pistols recoil to some extent by changing the spring to a diffrent compression rate. To bad you sold the pistol when a Wolff spring kit should have solved your problem. The height of the barrel above your grip can also have an effect as the higher the barrel the more leaverage it has on your grip.

**Too Slow '90** · 03-01-2009, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by gmaske

It may have been as simple as a weak recoil spring. If the spring doesn't control the slide correctly you get either a harsh jolt as the slide slams against its stop or at the other extreme you get a failure to extract or feed. You can tune a pistols recoil to some extent by changing the spring to a diffrent compression rate. To bad you sold the pistol when a Wolff spring kit should have solved your problem. The height of the barrel above your grip can also have an effect as the higher the barrel the more leaverage it has on your grip.

Thanks. That is valuable info. I really wanted the 5" anyway. Maybe it's a good reason to buy one.

**Scratchshooter40** · 03-01-2009, 04:36 PM

gmaske is quite correct with regard to the relationship of the bore axis above your hand and the distribution of the weight in the weapon. I shot a friend's .40 S&W and it felt a little snappier than my M&P 40 mostly due to the bore axis, I believe. Despite the felt recoil the SA shot very well in relation to the Glock 22 and the S&W M&P40. Accurate as all get out. The classic Browning design does a very good job of managing recoil in the 1911. I have always favored the Commander models personally, but that is a matter of personal preference. Hang on to as many as you are able now as the time quickly approaches, if we're not careful, with bills like HR45 out there when it may become quite difficult to obtain a weapon. Keep the pressure on your Senators and Representatives, make them aware of your position and hold them accountable.

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