Among quite a few "higher priced" pistols, I have 4 KTs. An older P3at, P11 & 2 PF9s. All of them have between 1000 & 2000+rds. Never had to send one back & all have been reliable. No experience w/P32.

I can only speak of the P3AT. Mine has been nothing but reliable and I would buy another without hesitation. On the flip side, it is not a "take it to the range and have some fun" gun. It is not pleasant to shoot for long periods of time. But it does serve it's intended purpose as a deep concealment gun very well.

My 2nd gen P32 has been totally reliable, not a single problem with it. It has over 500 rounds through it mostly ball (Fiocchi 73gr) and some Cor-Bon 60gr JHPs. I opted for this over the P3AT due to the snappy recoil and one less round in the .380 version. It goes everywhere with me and have never had a printing issue. I have the belt clip installed on mine and has been absolutely wonderful. It always goes with me even when my others won't. I also believe that the .32acp is perfectly fine for the type of self defense this gun was designed for, that being up close and personal, a nose gun if you will. Some others will disagree, but I find it fills my needs perfectly. Hope this helps.

Originally Posted by Todd

I can only speak of the P3AT. Mine has been nothing but reliable and I would buy another without hesitation. On the flip side, it is not a "take it to the range and have some fun" gun. It is not pleasant to shoot for long periods of time. But it does serve it's intended purpose as a deep concealment gun very well.

I am not really looking for a "take it to the range and have some fun" gun. I am looking for something that my wife can carry in her purse or even her carry wallet. The p-32 or even the p3at is small enough to fit the bill.

I have a 2nd gen P32. Totally reliable for me. Goes with me wherever I go. Just load it up with some hot ball ammo. A must to avoid rimlock (which I experienced first hand luckly at the range not out in the street). Long trigger pull but I'm sure your wife will love it.

The KT's are "unreliable" because a great many of the buyers of these things do not know how to handle them, or even how to clean them. This type of pistol is very intolerant of poor handling skills, so if you get one, you need to spend a lot of time learning how to shoot and clean them. Also, while the .32 version isn't bad in the recoil dept., the P3AT has a pretty decent kick as there is little weight to help absorb recoil. My wife shoots all our 9mm's and .357's without a problem, but she will not shoot my P3AT as the small grip and light weight make it very unpleasurable to shoot.

If you and your wife are going to put in the range time to learn the KT's, then they will serve you well. If ya'll aren't going to do that, then you will be better served with a small J-frame revolver.....

Originally Posted by Cheff1983

I was told at one gun store though that they are very unreliable guns and that owner would not stock them.

...or maybe the profit margin isn't high enough?

Originally Posted by kev74

...or maybe the profit margin isn't high enough?

Good one!

Good posts, Phil and Kev! Phil, these people also need to read the manual as well...and you are right, Kev, about the profit margin.

Originally Posted by kev74

...or maybe the profit margin isn't high enough?

Are you insinuating that there are unscrupulous business owners that will disparage a product and not carry it because, even though it will meet a customer's needs, it doesn't make them enough money, so they push something else that they just happen to carry?

I had the same thing happen to me when I was shopping for an Aim Point for my AR. Went to local shop and the guy there started telling me they are crap and they only sell EOTech and that's what I should get. I thanked him, left, and have never returned.

Thanks for the comments. Me and my wife are both planning on learning the guns. We were both taught that if we take care of something it will last much longer and be more reliable. That is why I drive a 10 year old car that has never had a problem or a leak.

I agree with the profit margin comment also. And That will be the last time I step foot into that shop. The other shop I went to they guy was very friendly and took the time to show me what he had and inform me about the mechanics.


Thanks again for the great comments.

Originally Posted by Todd

Are you insinuating that there are unscrupulous business owners that will disparage a product and not carry it because, even though it will meet a customer's needs, it doesn't make them enough money, so they push something else that they just happen to carry?

Insinuating??? It was more of a gingerly applied statement.

I have a p32 which I qualified with. I ran the same qualification as I have to do with my duty weapon for patrol. I fired a 50 round qual and shot 100 %. I was using a 10 round mag and a 7 round mag. I carry it as a backup. I highly recommend the p32

I also had a P11 with is a off duty gun during the summer months. The P11 had worked just fine also. I can recommend those two models. One of these days I think I'll get a PF-9 also.