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    Set me straight

    The law here in MN is written as follows for transporting a gun:

    Restrictions.A person may not transport a firearm in a motor vehicle unless the firearm is:
    unloaded and in the closed trunk of a motor vehicle
    https://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/....045&year=2008

    My question is, I have an extended cab pickup truck and want to know how/where I should carry it. Also I will soon be transporting hand guns in the same truck across the state line into WI to my parents home. I have no trunk, so can I keep the cased gun and ammo in the cab? Where, glove compartment? Seat? Under seat compartment? If in the cab must the case and/or ammo be in a locked case versus just a zipped case?

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    Check with the local law enforcement agency and you'll know for sure.

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    My thoughts are you have to make the gun as inaccessible as possible; meaning the guns are unloaded and locked and the ammo is also locked in a separate container. Since you have no trunk, the back of the cab would be your next option IMO. But like tekhead said, check with the authorities. I suggest both MN and WI in case that they have different requirements.

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    Check with the local people; however, as a rule of thumb, as far from you as possible where you cannot readily reach the weapon.

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    I used to put the unloaded handgun as far away as possible(behind
    passenger seat) and ammo in truck bed in water proof locked
    tool box. If I need to stop somewhere before destination then I
    just put the toolbox in floor of driver side. Then I bought a truck bed
    permanent mounted toolbox and that fixed the prob.
    Never was stopped but I figure I was OK if it did happen.
    I +1 on the ask the LEO's in MN and Wisconsin

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    I can attest that WI sucks. Here, I'd suggest unloaded, in the box, with a lock, ammo elsewhere, maybe locked in the glovebox. If you get pulled over, God be with you...

    This is cut and paste from: http://www.gunlaws.com/links/linkswi.htm

    All from 941.23 of http://www.legis.state.wi.us/statutes/Stat0941.pdf

    Excerpts and Points to Ponder...

    To "go armed" does not require going anywhere. The elements for a violation of s. 941.23 are: 1) a dangerous weapon is on the defendant's person or within reach; 2) the defendant is aware of the weapon's presence; and 3) the weapon is hidden. State v. Keith, 175 Wis. 2d 75, 498 N.W.2d 865 (Ct. App. 1993).

    A handgun on the seat of a car that was indiscernible from ordinary observation by a person outside, and within the immediate vicinity, of the vehicle was hidden from view for purposes of determining whether the gun was a concealed weapon under this section. State v. Walls, 190 Wis. 2d 65, 526 N.W.2d 765 (Ct. App. 1994).

    This section is constitutional as applied in this case. The defendant's interest in exercising his right to keep and bear arms for purposes of security by carrying a concealed weapon in his vehicle does not substantially outweigh the state's interest in prohibiting him from carrying a concealed weapon in his vehicle. State v. Fisher, 2006 WI 44, 290 Wis. 2d 121, 714 N.W.2d 495, 04-2989.

    A defendant was properly convicted under this section for driving a vehicle with a gun locked in a glove compartment. State v. Fry, 131 Wis. 2d 153, 388 N.W.2d 565 (1986).

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    Quote Originally Posted by FHBrumb View Post
    I can attest that WI sucks. Here, I'd suggest unloaded, in the box, with a lock, ammo elsewhere, maybe locked in the glovebox. If you get pulled over, God be with you...

    This is cut and paste from: http://www.gunlaws.com/links/linkswi.htm

    All from 941.23 of http://www.legis.state.wi.us/statutes/Stat0941.pdf

    Excerpts and Points to Ponder...

    To "go armed" does not require going anywhere. The elements for a violation of s. 941.23 are: 1) a dangerous weapon is on the defendant's person or within reach; 2) the defendant is aware of the weapon's presence; and 3) the weapon is hidden. State v. Keith, 175 Wis. 2d 75, 498 N.W.2d 865 (Ct. App. 1993).

    A handgun on the seat of a car that was indiscernible from ordinary observation by a person outside, and within the immediate vicinity, of the vehicle was hidden from view for purposes of determining whether the gun was a concealed weapon under this section. State v. Walls, 190 Wis. 2d 65, 526 N.W.2d 765 (Ct. App. 1994).

    This section is constitutional as applied in this case. The defendant's interest in exercising his right to keep and bear arms for purposes of security by carrying a concealed weapon in his vehicle does not substantially outweigh the state's interest in prohibiting him from carrying a concealed weapon in his vehicle. State v. Fisher, 2006 WI 44, 290 Wis. 2d 121, 714 N.W.2d 495, 04-2989.

    A defendant was properly convicted under this section for driving a vehicle with a gun locked in a glove compartment. State v. Fry, 131 Wis. 2d 153, 388 N.W.2d 565 (1986).
    Just wonderful!

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    Well... At least you don't have to live here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FHBrumb View Post
    Well... At least you don't have to live here!
    I used to live there! Born and raised (Milwaukee), moved here in 2000 and am surprised with all the hunters in Wi that the laws are are like that. I had no idea and now the thought of taking the guns up to my parents land for some plinking is not so attractive.

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