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Among with many other requirements, I believe one of the requirements for the Military was a manual safety. That alone disqualifies the Glock (obviously). Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.Originally Posted by Don357
I don't know if I've ever seen anyone on this forum reference an RPG or video game or a movie as "experience." Perhaps I overlooked a couple? If you have any links to the threads, I would love to see them. You are making a pretty big accusation here. I get quite sickened by individuals that completely disregard every other brand or model of firearm, but I rarely see that happen around here. I'm far from claiming that I have a ton of experience, but just like most of the people around here, I think there exists experience with a wide range of different firearms. Even those that rely on Glocks and speak so highly of them, most of those individuals have at least a fair amount of experience with other firearms. I just recently purchased my first Glock, and I can see the attraction. I'm not saying they are for everybody, because there exists not a single firearm for everyone, but something can be said about the reliability, accuracy, etc.Originally Posted by Don357
Just curious as to whether you're referencing this forum here? Again, I have very rarely, if ever, seen this type of thing on this forum.Originally Posted by Don357
See above. I agree that this exists out there in the world (not just the firearms world). I also think that it's completely ridiculous and an immature way of thinking. Having said that, you may be confusing some comments and recommendations with this immature activity/logic. I very well could be wrong, but at least around this forum, this very seldom happens.Originally Posted by Don357
The reason I keep referencing this forum is because this "data" you're collecting is from this forum. I'm assuming this is what you mean by your "findings."
I'll be interested to see what kind of "findings" you come up with from this thread.Originally Posted by Don357
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Outstanding.Originally Posted by IndyRob
Don, why do you refuse to read my posts? I mean, you seem to ignore anything I write about reasons other than cost for Glocks being in good standing with LE. Also, me saying I like Glocks and being a retired cop does not indicate a "definite bias." Are you running this study on other sites as well and excluding the feedback you get there? Also, you "insight" in municipal budgets is a bunch of crap. You can't just assume that because it might be that way one place, it is like that everywhere. I would like to know what your background is. City manager, mayor, police chief, something along those lines? The line about the U.S. military not using Glocks is just silly. Speaking of low bid contract buying.Originally Posted by Don357
Maybe I am reading between the lines too much, but are you trying to imply that I am some video game playing kid making stuff up? I get the feeling that you are, based on your use of "experience." I think I have been pretty open about my background and such. Let's hear what you bring to the table.Originally Posted by Don357
Again, where in this thread are you seeing this?Originally Posted by Don357
Like who? Who on this board and in this thread has displayed that kind of attitude?Originally Posted by Don357
Would you care to state your thesis and your method of research for this project of yours? It seems to me that you are not really paying much attention to what is being posted but, rather, have something to say. Why not cut all the "I am getting good stuff" and tell us what the point is? After all, the title of your thread is "To make a point." Please make it already.Originally Posted by Don357
The Secret Service is not part of the military. I believe you mean CID, the Criminal Investigative Division. The Sig Sauer P228 is known as the M11 in the U.S. military.
Also, I do not think SOCOM chose a sidearm so to speak. SF normally uses the M9, the SEALs the Sig Sauer P226, Delta whatever they want, some of the Marine units (now part of SOCOM) use a Kimber 1911 of some sort.
My understanding is that the M9 is the official sidearm of the Army, Navy, Marine Corps and Air Force, with the M11 being used for certain MOS and/or units. The H&K SOCOM, which is a huge .45ACP, is also used. It does seem that other sidearms are being used, and units like Delta can probably use whatever they want.
Umm..Where is the point and how do we get to it?
I am of the opinion that this thread is a veiled attempt at Glock bashing and seriously doubt there is any sort of "research" going on. While I do not own a Glock nor am I a "fan boy", I do recognize they make a quality pistol. Since this thread has not proven to create any sort of meaningful discussion, and since the OP has not responded to many members' request to get to the point he was saying he had, we can all stop wasting our time with this thread.