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    Quote Originally Posted by MLB View Post
    I heard that SIG has revived the .380 metal framed semiauto recently. I'd like to try that one.
    Yeah, it's the Sig 238, based on the Colt Mustang.

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    To heavy for a .380 for me

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    My daughter bought one, so, I will report when I try to shoot it. Ugly little thing.

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    Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I like the why it looks, feels, shoots and hides. We all have different opinions, this happens to be mine as I do own one! I have several 9 mm and a 357 but this is one I choose for my conceal carry.

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    The 238 that Sig has is big enough to be a 9mm. When they offer it in that caliber I will look at them a little closer. It's just too big for .380 IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FHBrumb View Post
    I'm just curious how a blowback weapon could not be "gas assisted"??? Isn't the gas propelling the case rearward against the breech, forcing the slide to move on all of them? Now, if it was gas delayed, that would be cool...
    That's exactly the case: It's gas delayed.
    There are a couple of vents atop the barrel, within the ejection port, that allow powder gasses to impede the movement of the slide. The gas pushes forward while the slide tries to move backward. Thus the breech is kind of locked closed, until gas pressure in the barrel drops (as the bullet exits the muzzle).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dosborn View Post
    The 238 that Sig has is big enough to be a 9mm. When they offer it in that caliber I will look at them a little closer. It's just too big for .380 IMO.
    Sig 238, is a nice gun but too large for the way I want to carry it. No a problem as this is what makes the world go round.

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    DAMM.......that is soooo small. Maybe too small.

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    One of my Officers picked up the Micro this past Tuesday, when compared to my Secamp 380 its a pig, but it did eat every type of 380 we threw at it.

    Now that Secamp has a 2 year wait again on the 380, this mite be a viable tool in its place

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    Micro Desert Eagle

    Love my Micro Desert Eagle, with Speer GOLD * Dot, it's the ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave James View Post
    One of my Officers picked up the Micro this past Tuesday, when compared to my Secamp 380 its a pig...
    Interesting observation.

    In terms of actual dimensions, the Seecamp .380 and the Micro .380 are pretty similar.
    Seecamp: length=4.25"; height=3.25"; thickness=0.91"; loaded weight=14oz
    Micro DE: length=4.52"; height=3.71"; thickness=0.90"; loaded weight=18oz

    What interests me is that, in a truly tiny pistol, small increments make huge differences in subjective "feel."
    For instance, my wife's Kel-Tec .380 is quite a bit larger than either the Seecamp or the Micro, but it weighs so much less (only 11oz, loaded) that it subjectively seems to be about the same size as those smaller guns!

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