Originally Posted by undrgrnd

ok so I'm still on the waiting list for the ruger lcp. I was checking .380 ammo and that stuff is on average 5.00 to 10.00 more per 50 than 9mm luger. here's my question in comparitive size and know that the glock 26 is obviously going to be bigger but by how much? could the 26 still possibly be used as a pocket carry like the lcp? I love my 9mm, this is my round of choice but I like the concealability(dont know if this is a word) factor of the lcp but is the extra cost of ammo worth the size difference?

Personally I don't think the G26 is practical at all for pocket carry unless you wear VERY baggy pants. Even then, I think it would be heavy and awkward. The .380 ammo is quite a bit more expensive, but if I wanted a pocket gun (which some day I will) then I would buy a .380 and not look back. It depends on how much you really want a pocket gun. IMO, the G26 is not one and cannot be one. IMO the difference in size is well worth the difference in price for ammo. This won't be a range gun, you will shoot it to test function every once in a while (once it is broken in) and that will be it. Just my .02

-Jeff-

Only you can decide if the trade off is worth it or not. I can tell you the G26 is not a pocket gun. If you want a 9mm for possible pocket carry look at the Kahr PM9.

The Glock 26 is by no means a pocket gun... It's too long, and too thick.

If you want a 9mm pocket gun, you have basically 3 choices.
1)Kahr PM9
2)Rohrbaugh
3)Keltec PF-9

The Kahr runs around $700, and requires 400-500 rounds of "break-in".
The Rohrbaugh runs around $1200.
The PF-9 is only $250-300, but is also a bit longish for pocket carry.

The Kahr is the equal to the Rohrbaugh I feel, for $500 less. Which brings it down to easy-pocket-carry 9mm for $700, or the "half-price" but bigger PF-9, which still seems to be having some reliability issues, even after it's rework, and second release. Personally, I'd guess most of the FTF issues are user-related, rather than gun-related, in a small 9mm.

Size-test a PF-9, which you should be able to find anywhere, or price-swallow the Kahr.

Or, just go buy a P-3AT, for $250-300, and have the same damn gun as the Ruger, with a longer track-record, for less money, and own it in 3 days.

Jeff

here the thing I'm new to concealed carry and I want to make sure that I have it down before I start. I don't think my xd9 is practical for concealed being that its a little big and my clothes aren't baggy they tend to fit just like thwy should so concealing will be difficult. I could conceal the xd9 during winter if I was wearing a jacket but that lasts all of 4 months in texas leaving 8 month to figure out how to hide a pistol under fitted clothing this is where my delema comes in. I'm trying to find something for concealed in those other months. I love the xd9sc but again its bulky under fitted clothing. hopefully yall see where I'm getting at.

Originally Posted by JeffWard

and own it in 3 days.

Jeff

3 days por que. I COULD (key word here) pick one up tomorrow.

Originally Posted by undrgrnd

here the thing I'm new to concealed carry and I want to make sure that I have it down before I start. I don't think my xd9 is practical for concealed being that its a little big and my clothes aren't baggy they tend to fit just like thwy should so concealing will be difficult. I could conceal the xd9 during winter if I was wearing a jacket but that lasts all of 4 months in texas leaving 8 month to figure out how to hide a pistol under fitted clothing this is where my delema comes in. I'm trying to find something for concealed in those other months. I love the xd9sc but again its bulky under fitted clothing. hopefully yall see where I'm getting at.

If you will not consider purchasing bigger clothing then pocket carry is really your only choice. The options would be those that JeffWard mentioned above. That's all up to you.

-Jeff-

so looks like the lcp or the p3at are my choices since 700 for a Khar is not in the picture. as always yall have been more than helpful. the only thing I like that the lcp has that the p3at lacks is the slide lock. jeffward how do you like your p3at.

Originally Posted by undrgrnd

so looks like the lcp or the p3at are my choices since 700 for a Khar is not in the picture. as always yall have been more than helpful. the only thing I like that the lcp has that the p3at lacks is the slide lock. jeffward how do you like your p3at.

Downside, if you're wearing "fitted clothing", the LCP is still going to be uncomfortable to wear. Trying to stuff a pocket holster into a pair of disco pants pocket. Just not enough room. Get a good tuckable holster and if you have any kind of blousing with your tailed shirts, it would cover a XD9sc easily. I carry my XD45c while wearing dress shirts and no one can tell I am packing. Just my .02.

There is really not much of a comparison to make between a "Baby Glock' and an LCP. The Glock is a serious shooter that anyone can learn to shoot plates with at 25 yards, and enjoy it in the process. On the other hand, the LCP is really just a 'get off me' gadget that is not much fun to shoot, after the first time. It's strong enough to save your life, if you do everything just right, but not something you should be very confident about having to ever use.

I carry an LCP often, in hot weather, because sometimes it is simply that or nothing at all, but, when possible I carry a 9mm in a tuckable IWB, or if I have a cover garment, a .45.

I've changed my style of dress to accomodate my 1911:

With long humid summers on the Texas Coast, Hawaiian shirts are common, comfortable, and conceal well.

When I can't go Hawaiian, I carry my Kel-Tec P3AT.

WM

I am with Wandering man. M&P40 IWB with a cover shirt works well in Arizona heat.

I have tried a snubby .357 in the pocket but it is still obvious and uncomfortable.

Compromise your dress code a little bit and carry that XD9

Stay safe

if you MUST choose the .380,i would highly suggest you use ball ammo and not hollow points.i would suggest truncated cone.that would be my first choice.

642 in a galco IWB

Originally Posted by TOF

I have tried a snubby .357 in the pocket but it is still obvious and uncomfortable.

Compromise your dress code a little bit and carry that XD9

Stay safe

I bet you got lots of attention from the ladies!

WM

Originally Posted by Wandering Man

I bet you got lots of attention from the ladies!

WM

That is a side benefit but then you have to double dose on Viagra to prove up.

Originally Posted by TOF

That is a side benefit but then you have to double dose on Viagra to prove up.

WM

well on that note since I'm married with a child. I really wouldn't have much to prove

but when I say my clothes fit I don't mean it in such a way as I'm wearing hip hugger and shirt that show off my manly fisique(how ever you spell it) I'm a bigger guy in a short mans body I'm not fat but my shirts tend to go right below my waist line. so now I really need help concealing instead of a choice of pistol. everybody been very helpful up to this point and I much do appreciate the input. here's my dress style. my pants are loose fit and don't fit quite snug aroudnd the waist unless I'm wearing a belt. I normally wear tshirts. so what would be the best concealed for this type of styled clothing. and please don't make me post a pic of my fat @$$.

Originally Posted by undrgrnd

well on that note since I'm married with a child. I really wouldn't have much to prove

You will understand in 40 more years.

Originally Posted by undrgrnd

well on that note since I'm married with a child. I really wouldn't have much to prove

Are you sure about that?

but when I say my clothes fit I don't mean it in such a way as I'm wearing hip hugger and shirt that show off my manly fisique(how ever you spell it) I'm a bigger guy in a short mans body I'm not fat but my shirts tend to go right below my waist line. so now I really need help concealing instead of a choice of pistol. everybody been very helpful up to this point and I much do appreciate the input. here's my dress style. my pants are loose fit and don't fit quite snug aroudnd the waist unless I'm wearing a belt. I normally wear tshirts. so what would be the best concealed for this type of styled clothing.

Personally, I think you need to invest in a good IWB holster. It sounds like you already have the pants for it, since a belt would be advisable anyways. All you need are bigger shirts, or maybe start wearing button-down style shirts over an undershirt (this would be easier). I think you'd be surprised at how easy this would be.

and please don't make me post a pic of my fat @$$.

On another thought, advice would be easier to give if we had a picture.

-Jeff-

P.S. Please - No pictures.

TOF in 40 years I probably will but I won't let that get me down now.

Jeff when you say IWB holster I understand but with which pistol. you talking bout XD9sc in bi-tone or baby glock.

PS - don't lie

Originally Posted by undrgrnd

Jeff when you say IWB holster I understand but with which pistol. you talking bout XD9sc in bi-tone or baby glock.

PS - don't lie

Whichever one feels better to you and/or you shoot better. The concealability of the XDSC and the G26 are about the same for me. This is because I would need a mag extension on the G26 whereas I don't on the XDSC. If you are comfortable with a G26 with a standard mag and no extension than it would be slightly easier to conceal than a XDSC IMO.

-Jeff-

well I've held the xd9sc and if its really not that much diff than the glock. the glock23 had to short of a grip for me so the 26 will probably be worse for me. hope I figure this out.

Originally Posted by undrgrnd

well I've held the xd9sc and if its really not that much diff than the glock. the glock23 had to short of a grip for me so the 26 will probably be worse for me. hope I figure this out.

If the G23 was too short than the G26 definitely would be without an extension. For that matter, the XDSC would probably be too. Even if you needed a mag extension on the XDSC it wouldn't be that hard to conceal. But, if you use the factory extension with extra rounds from Springfield, that makes the grip the same length as the service models, so you might as well just conceal your service if that's necessary. This wouldn't be too hard with the right clothing.

-Jeff-

or the right holster. I'm thinking I'm going to purchase a galco they seen to have the best ones out plus give a supporting company some business. any other suggestions for iwb holster.