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    Well..Being the shop owner had no issue about breaking it down I would say that he know the person that traded it in and trusts the pistol will function fine. I bought a Springfield 9mm 1911 at a gun show that looked inside like it had never been cleaned...EVER!. I was allowed to take the slide off and see that although really dirty everything looked to be OK and bought it. The dealer at the show was a guy I have done business with in a town not too far from me and I knew he was not one that would sell junk so I went for it. It's one of the best shooting guns I have.

    Dirty or not you should be able to see if something is really worn or broken. More than likely the owner used some cheap dirty ammo and once decided it was going to go cleaning it just didn't seem important. Personally I can see how someone bring a dirty gun to bargain with but everyone is different I guess.

    Hell, Make the dirt work for you and use it as a bargaining tool. "Well..All this crap in it I'm going to have to spend all day cleaning it just so I can fire it myself..."

    If you like the gun then go for it. Maybe you can get a 10 day return on it if it does malfunction once you can get to actually shoot it?

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    You say it's dirty and over priced....... dont buy it. That was an easy solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slick View Post
    You say it's dirty and over priced....... dont buy it. That was an easy solution.
    yup

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    A couple of years ago, I bought a Sig 226 Toledo Police Trade in. When I received the gun from the dealer, it had not been cleaned in ages.

    There gunk caked under the grips to the point I had to pry them off with a small screwdriver.

    I totally stripped the handun and used two cans of cleaner on it. I replaced the pins and springs.

    It has a 3,000 round trigger. What ever officer had this gun, shot it. Smooth like butter.

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    I bought a Kahr P-45 cheap, because it was filthy and jammed every third or fourth round. The gun shop/shooting range actually let me fire it first, because I was a regular customer. It had two failures to feed in the one magazine I fired, and they knocked off $50 on the spot.

    I took it home and cleaned it, shined the feed ramp up a little and returned to the range with four different types of .45 ammo. It loved Sellier & Belliot FMJ's, never jamming once. I fired 50 rounds of it, and then tried the other brands, and they all worked, too, including the Speer Gold Dots that I wanted to carry for an SD round.

    My conclusion was that somebody bought it new, fired a box or two of really dirty ammo through it, experienced many failures, couldn't hit anything with it, and found the recoil to be too heavy. When I finished cleaning it, it looked brand new, and was eventually reliable enough that I carried it a lot.

    So, I don't worry too much about buying a dirty gun, as long as it shows no signs of abuse. It is my belief that the overwhelming majority of handgun owners never learn to shoot them very well, and soon stop trying. The result is that there are a great number of used guns out there that look like hell, but actually are not even broken in, yet.

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    Heck, I'd say you are lucky to have a shop that'll field strip it for you. All the local places won't do it, or even let you do it, even if you know how. I only buy brand new stuff from the local shops. If I go to my fav place in Utah, they strip it, will let you shoot it, hell, I bet they'd let you clean it! hehehe.

    Buying guns is all about how valuable it is to you. I bought a P99 for $400 used. Had to replace a recoil spring, shoots like a champ. It was filthy as heck.

    To be honest, if it's a gun of new manufacture, you'd really have to abuse it to make any wear and tear cause any sort of malfunctions. That's not to be confused with "dirty". A dirty gun can cause malfunctions, but as has been pointed out, a simple cleaning will take care of that. I tend to look at the exterior finish and the barrel. That's it. If a gun is beat to heck on the outside, it probably wasn't maintained well on the inside.

    Zhur

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