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    HardLivin is offline Junior Member
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    Looking for a pocket handgun?!?

    I own an XD 45 Service and a Walther P22. The XD is WAY too big for me to stuff in a pocket in the summer. The P22 will do the job but I prefer something in a larger caliber.

    I've looked at Kel-Tec 9mm and Walther PPS 9mm. I love the XD and the XD9mmSC is just too big to work as a real pocket pistol (I'd never get it out my pocket in an emergency).

    I don't want to rule any handgun out. What does everybody think would be a good "throw it my pocket" handgun that would be worth carrying in SD?

    I went to a local gun shop today over lunch and it really surprised me how many people were there. I held several smaller footprint guns but none realy sold me. People were buying all kinds of guns and I actually had to go to WalMart right next door to get some ammo.

    BTW- What are people doing with these AR and other assault rifles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardLivin View Post
    What does everybody think would be a good "throw it my pocket" handgun that would be worth carrying in SD?
    I think it would depend on how big your pockets are, or how tightly you wear your pants. I have some small handguns, but I don't carry anything in my pockets as they are either uncomfortable when sitting, or they print. But anyway, to answer your Q: take a look at the new Ruger LCP, or the Kel-Tec P3AT, which are about as light a decent pocket pistol as you'll find. Possibly a more reliable choice would be a hammerless scandium J-frame. For a nine or forty, the Kahr PM series would do well. There is also the Rorhbaugh too.

    If you don't mind a very small caliber, then look at the Seecamp .32, the Beretta tip-ups, Kel-Tec P32.

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    In 9MM the Keltec PF9 and Kahr PM9 or PM40 (.40 cal).

    The Keltec P3AT is real popular around here in .380.

    And the ever classic J frame revolvers. Hammerless preferred.

    Basically what PhilR said +1.

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    Most pocket guns will be DAO. Of these, I'm liking the Kahr CW9.

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    +1 on the recommendation to look at the Ruger LCP and the Kel-Tec P3AT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyatt View Post
    In 9MM the Keltec PF9 and Kahr PM9 or PM40 (.40 cal).

    The Keltec P3AT is real popular around here in .380.

    And the ever classic J frame revolvers. Hammerless preferred.

    Basically what PhilR said +1.
    +1 to that.

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    Thanks for the suggestions. The Kahrs look nice but are pricey. I'll need to get my hands on one.

    The LCP and P3AT appear to be very close in size to the PF9. I would prefer 9mm over .380 if the total size of the guns are very close. Again, I need to get my hands on these as well.

    I generally wear comfortable, loose fitting pants and shorts. Loose fitting jeans and khakis and cargo shorts. I can fit my 45 in my pocket but it is impossible to hide.

    I don't see me going with a man bag or fanny pack so the gun will have to conceal in my clothing.

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    Pocket

    I would recommend the PF9, I've heard they are unpleasant to shoot though.

    Quote Originally Posted by HardLivin View Post
    BTW- What are people doing with these AR and other assault rifles?
    I think a lot of people are worried that if a Dem gets elected president, they won't be able to by AR-15's and other military (assault!!!) looking weapons.

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    Give the Walther PPS a try. I had a chance to throw one in my pocket and it fits very well. It's a little thinner then your P22, which I also have.

    The only problem I can see with the PPS is recoil...it's very small and very light. I'd stay away from .40 with it.

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    Another vote for the Kahr PM9. I bought one for my wife a while back, and we both love it; it's really small, thin, and 9mm, and does NOT hurt when shooting it, unlike the P3AT I had. It had some break-in issues, but they say you must run at least 200 through it to break it in. Ours needed more than that, and I had to polish up the feed ramp a bit. Everyone I've talked to though said theirs ran about 100% out of the box. I think ours was just a goof; it runs really well now.

    Ah ehm, ANYway... it's a nice little gun. The trigger is amazing. I've never felt a smoother DAO trigger, ever. The price tag's going to be about double, or more, than the Kel-Tec P3AT. I had a P3AT for myself a while back. It was incredibly small and served its purpose, but I just couldn't shoot the darn thing to save my life. I hear of people grouping well at 25 yds with it all day long. I had about 2 FOOT groups at about 5 yards, kid you not, lol...as embarrassing as it is to admit that! So, I sold it. If I can't shoot it, I'm not gonna carry it. Don't want to hit Mom and baby when I'm trying to hit the bad guy.

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    just throwing this out there as an additional option, the Taurus PT111. About the same size as the Kahr but with 12 rd clip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardLivin View Post
    What does everybody think would be a good "throw it my pocket" handgun that would be worth carrying in SD?
    I'll cast another vote for the P3AT.

    Quote Originally Posted by HardLivin View Post
    BTW- What are people doing with these AR and other assault rifles?
    Buying them while they still can before another ban is enacted and then having a blast shooting them!

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    I've been totally satisfied with my P3AT.

    I recently bought a KelTec PF9 as a potential pocket replacement for the P3AT, however. It's done well in some very limited range testing, but I am not yet ready to retire the P3AT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HardLivin View Post
    The LCP and P3AT appear to be very close in size to the PF9. I would prefer 9mm over .380 if the total size of the guns are very close.
    I do not think that they are close in size. In fact, to me, there is a substantial difference between them. I think most people would prefer the nine over the .380 as well, but because there is a difference in size, a lot of people are willing to go to a less powerful caliber in order to get a smaller pistol.

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    I recommend the LCP if you can find one. Small size, manageable recoil, good fit and finish, and low price. I don't feel underpowered carrying it since I used to carry a Keltec p32.

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    PhilR. is on the money, as usual. The PF9 is considerably larger than the P3AT. I posted some comparison pics a while back. A search should turn up the thread in the KelTec subforum.
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    I carry a P-3AT every day. Now, wearing a suit and tie to work, it stuffs in my right rear pocket like a wallet. You'll forget it's there. I do.

    And yes, you can shoot 6" groups at 7M with it. I have a laser on mine and it's even better, and just as concealable.

    I carry a larger weapon WHEN I CAN, but I have the P-3AT at least.

    Zero failures, plenty of accuracy, ANY pocket convenience, and UNDER $300 NIB.

    Buy one.

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    wyatt has it right
    keltec380 or
    ruger lcp in 380 or
    keltec pf9or
    kahr pm9 or
    a S&W j frame
    pocket holsters will hide the outline also
    i love the new pants from la gear 5.11 they are great!!!!!!!!!

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    I've narrowed it done to the P3AT or PF9. I actually held a PF9 over the weekend and has a nice fit in my hand. It was actually larger than I thought it would be.

    I can't find a P3AT to see or hold. The Ruger LCP is a dang hard gun to find as well.

    So I'm in a holding pattern until dealer's inventory increase (which I doubt is likely). Or... I may go ahead and get the PF9 while I'm waiting.

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    If the PF9 fits your pocket, get it. A 9mm is better than a .380 for defense.
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