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  • SAO (1911-style)

    49 27.84%
  • Traditional DA (DA/SA)

    75 42.61%
  • Safe-Action (Glock, M&P)

    21 11.93%
  • DAO (Sig, some Rugers)

    9 5.11%
  • Other (elaborate)

    5 2.84%
  • Don't care; if it fires I'm happy

    17 9.66%
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    Favorite trigger action

    Easy enough to explain. Have at it.

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    I like DA/SA because it offers the widest variety of carry options. DA with safety off, SA with safety on, DA with safety on.

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    Dredd refers to "selective double action." Only a small minority of DA pistols offer the function he describes, as most have a safety, a lever, or other dingus that safely drops the hammer.

    For pure ease of shooting, I like SAs, specifically the 1911. But the Glocks I actually carry have the hybrid "safe action" trigger, which allows more than adequate precision in an overall design that offers greater reliability than the 1911.
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    I chose DAO, because I have come to believe that it is the safest trigger mode for concealed carry -- especially in-the-pocket concealed carry.
    For competition or for fun, I'd chose SA semi-auto every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    I chose DAO, because I have come to believe that it is the safest trigger mode for concealed carry -- especially in-the-pocket concealed carry.
    You need to change your name to Steve Double Eagle for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by submoa View Post
    You need to change your name to Steve Double Eagle for that.
    No, not "Double Eagle." Colt hasn't made a good pistol for years and years.
    Look more closely at my photo.
    Try Steve Semmerling instead.

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    I'd like to see LDA(light double action) added to the poll. I've not shot one but would be interesting to see how members feel about it who have shot LDA. I believe Para-Ordnance has the market on this as they designed it.

    Im considering buying a Para Carry 9 so this could be useful. To me at least.

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    Never shot a LDA. The Walther AS is the closest as in SA the striker is only half-cocked, so the trigger pull finishes cocking it back, then releases. I think Glocks are similar, but they're still considered SAO (safe action). I'm not a big fan of DA as the longer/heavier pull causes more inaccuracy if the trigger is yanked in a stressful situation, but for some, the added length and weight helps prevent a ND. For me, SAO.

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    There are different triggers that excelt at different jobs. But since you asked for our favorites, SAO is mine. DAO is excellent for concealed carry, but with the right hoslter SAO works too.

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    Some clarification:

    Most Sigs are traditional DA. Some (P250, DAK's) are DAO, and a few are SAO.

    The LDA is a DAO. So is a Kahr, Keltec, P99 QA, and most striker fired pistols. The Glock and the M&P are also classified as a DAO. Most striker fired DAO's partially precock the striker to improve trigger pull. The LDA is not striker fired.

    The Springfield XD is technically classified as a SAO, because the striker is fully cocked. However, as fas as I'm concerned, it's a DAO. The trigger pull is similar to the Glock & the M&P.

    The Walther P99 AS is nothing like a LDA. It is a traditional DA that is striker fired. When in SA mode the striker is completely cocked, and pulling the trigger releases the striker. My P99c is well broken in, and has a SA trigger pull that breaks like glass at about 4.5lbs. No one who had ever fired the LDA and the P99 AS would think the two were similar.

    IMO, the Kahr trigger is the one that is most similar to the LDA.

    As to a favorite trigger action, I don't have one. For me, it would be dependent on the task at hand. Each has it's pros & cons. If I could only have one semiauto, I guess I would choose traditional DA because of it's versatility.
    Last edited by James NM; 04-25-2008 at 07:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    Dredd refers to "selective double action." Only a small minority of DA pistols offer the function he describes, as most have a safety, a lever, or other dingus that safely drops the hammer.

    For pure ease of shooting, I like SAs, specifically the 1911. But the Glocks I actually carry have the hybrid "safe action" trigger, which allows more than adequate precision in an overall design that offers greater reliability than the 1911.
    I suppose so, like SIg for example has a decock lever, but no safety unless you specifically order that option. Most H&K pistols have a variety of variants, and Variant 1 has the safety lever with decocking function. So one could use it in DA mode with safety off, DA mode with safety on, or SA mode with safety on.

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    Good job clarifying, James NM. To get the acronyms out of the way:

    SAO = Single Action Only (gun can only fire if cocked)
    DA/SA = Double Action/Single Action (gun fires the first shot via trigger-cocking, then reverts to single action firing)
    DAO = Double Action Only (gun only fires in trigger-cocking mode)
    Safe Action = a Glock-owned marketing term for a gun that is partially cocked by slide cycling, but must be fully cocked via trigger movement (the gun is literally carried "half cocked")
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    DA/SA for me. Love the action options of my Beretta and HK.

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    I voted SA, for my XDs, which ARE single action. Particularly, after a little trigger work by Springfield.. My XD45 now feels much more like a Kimber than a Glock.

    My Keltec is loooong pull DAO. No safeties, just a mile of trigger.

    For precision work.. SAO. For pocket carry, DAO.

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    Personally I like the trigger on my Witness. It's DA/SA, but it has a half cock and a hammer lock safety. this gives me several SAFE ways to carry. Hammer down with safety on or off, half cocked with safety on or off, or fully cocked with safety on.
    The half cock also gives a 50% reduction in length of trigger pull.

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    I actually prefer the single actions like my SIG P220 SAO, but I've got more Glocks than anything so I went for the vote safe action. I shoot my Glocks in SA mode after the first round anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ram Rod View Post
    ...I shoot my Glocks in SA mode after the first round anyway.
    Huh?
    Please explain.
    As I thought I understood the workings of the Glock "safe action" trigger, every shot is fired with exactly the same trigger action.
    Is there something I don't know about, here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    Huh?
    Please explain.
    As I thought I understood the workings of the Glock "safe action" trigger, every shot is fired with exactly the same trigger action.
    Is there something I don't know about, here?
    I think maybe Ram Rod is referring to shots after the first pull that can be performed with the shorter reset stroke. The trigger does not have to return to the full pull position. If I'm not mistaken though, the pull weight is the same as for the first shot, just that the pull is not as long.

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    On the Glock, the long "take up" is actually completely cocking the pistol. After the first shot, proper trigger reset technique only allows the trigger to go forward enough to reengagement "click," and avoids the long cocking pull.
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    I had to vote Other.

    DAK on Sigs.

    Need I say more

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