Originally Posted by dannyb

Now that I look it up, it may (I repeat MAY) have been a Peregrin prototype.

As I understand it, the Peregrine Falcon was a straight-up copy of the Bren Ten, not a 1911.

STI makes/made a 1911 type called Falcon.

Originally Posted by gmaske

A Ruger 44 mag Black Hawk I believe it was. Nothing wrong with the gun other than it hurt like hell to shoot. In my book it's the wrong design for a cartridge with that much power. There was no way I could keep the gun from rotating in my hand. Every shot the web of my hand would end up jammed hard up against the hammer channel. Too much force and no support with that western six shooter design.

Whaaaat??? The Blackhawk (Super Blackhawk) advanced the .44 mag cartridge further than the venerable N frame ever thought about doing. The design was perfect for the caliber. The thick cylinder walls and heavy frame made it perfect for hand loading and stretching the limits of the 44 magnum.
The single action design is intended to roll in your hand. It helps with recoil and follow up shots.

You want pos, lets talk about the FIE Arminius

http://www.armsbid.com/8webpix/1521.jpg

That's why I said "May". This was a bit after I first started with hand guns, so it was probably about 1989. The store where I bought it went out of business a long time ago. I Googled Falcon and came up with the Bren Ten stories. They did say that Peregrine had made a couple of prototypes including a .45 in the Falcon line along with their copy of the Bren Ten, so I guessed. You may very well be right, although I did get on the STI site and saw a double-stack "Eagle" but not a single stack "Falcon." An article I found that talks about the STI Falcon describes it as a snub nose .45 resembling the Colt Officer's version but lighter. I remember this thing as being the same size as a friend's 1911 A1 when we lay them side by side at the range. Anyway, I'm not making any hard and fast claims - I didn't know diddly about 1911s and such in those days. All I know is that I had a gunsmith fiddle with the ejector on the thing and it still sent the cases straight back at my head. Not a pleasant experience at all.

Originally Posted by Mike Barham

As I understand it, the Peregrine Falcon was a straight-up copy of the Bren Ten, not a 1911.

STI makes/made a 1911 type called Falcon.

The worst revolver was my first gun ever, a Taurus Model 83, in nickel. Crunchy action, the face of the cylinder wasn't flat, so when it got hot and had some residue on the front of it, it wouldn't turn. The timing was a mile off, and the rifling on the barrel was non existant in the middle, and very shallow up near the forcing cone. At the muzzle end, it was very deep and rough, better to catch the lead with. 2 trips to FL got some of the issues resolved, but they refused to change the barrel, so I sold it to some dope who knew the problems it had, but bought it anyway. I bought a Dan Wesson Model 15 and loved it.

In autos, there's a 3 way tie for the worst. My first 1911 was an AMT Hardballer. There wasn't one thing right on it, and it jammed constantly. I sent it back to AMT and it was only slightly better. I sold it and then bought a Colt Commander, thinking, "It costs almost 3 times what the AMT did, it should be great!" I thought wrong, it was nearly as jam prone as the AMT was, and after having Colt and a local gunsmith work on it, it wasn't any better. Colt scratched it all up too! I haven't owned a 1911 since. My $350 EAA Witness makes them look sick, it never jams, and feels a lot better in my hand than any 1911 ever did. It also holds 3 more rounds.

Originally Posted by submoa

1. Start with a good gun
2. Ask about 10,000 operators and wannabes to list features they want.
3. Add all the features on the list regardless of weight and price.

End up with the HK Mk.23. Accurate, reliable, yes... Overengineered, overbuilt, oversize, overweight and overpriced. Probably the best gun to shoot... if you are wearing a spacesuit.

In HK's defense, you give the customer what they ask for, even when they are wrong.

That has got to be your funniest post's EVER.