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    .45 ACP gun for range

    I want a gun chambered in .45 ACP for range use and home defense purposes. I own a HK P30 which I love very much. It's obviously 9mm. I was looking at the different 1911 variants and I have fired a Springfield and a Kimber. Difference was so minimal that I don't see the price difference.

    Anyway to cut it short I was looking at either a 1911 or an HK45. The HK45 is brand new, but HK is a respected name. The 1911 has been out for almost 100 years and it's tested time and time again. What to get?

    In my position, what would the members here recommend. Please don't tell me Glock or Sig P220

    I'm interested in either a 1911 or an HK45. For those of you who like the 1911s is there a model that you consider the best for the money?

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    STI Trojan 5.0



    STI is famous for their IPSC race guns and supplying quality 1911components to other manufacturers.

    5" barrel provides good sight radius and recoil control.

    The Trojan is probably the best value, general use gun STI makes. STI claims the Trojan is ready to compete in IPSC, USPSA, IDPA, or SSSA right out of the box.

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    I would take a look at S&W also as they have some good guns now a days in the 1911 line. Good luck.

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    Find you a Colt Gold Cup.

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    There really isn't a "best for the money" when it comes to 1911's. There are so many to choose from in many different price ranges, and most of them function just fine. For the most part, it's a combination of brand loyalty, price and availability that determines a purchase. Fine a model from a major manufacturer that is within your price range, and you'll be fine.

    I don't know if you carry your P30, nor do I know if it functions like the other HK you are thinking of buying. However, if you are going to use the new .45 for defense purposes, it might make sense to buy one that matches the method of action of what you already are used to. 1911's require a bit more proficiency to use as a self-defense weapon, and work much differently than would your HK's.

    PhilR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilR. View Post
    There really isn't a "best for the money" when it comes to 1911's. There are so many to choose from in many different price ranges, and most of them function just fine. For the most part, it's a combination of brand loyalty, price and availability that determines a purchase. Fine a model from a major manufacturer that is within your price range, and you'll be fine.

    I don't know if you carry your P30, nor do I know if it functions like the other HK you are thinking of buying. However, if you are going to use the new .45 for defense purposes, it might make sense to buy one that matches the method of action of what you already are used to. 1911's require a bit more proficiency to use as a self-defense weapon, and work much differently than would your HK's.

    PhilR.
    Right, I understand the differences in the 1911 system vs the HK. My P30 uses the same trigger system (minus the safety) as the HK45. However, people have said to me that the 1911 is THE gun to have if you want to do target shooting and whatnot. So for that reason I decided to do a comparison and decide what to do, it's just hard to pick one way or the other. I do know that there isn't much difference between the different 1911 variants, but at the same time I know some of them have different features and added value. Such as polished feed ramps, vented triggers, different sight options including adjustable sights etc.

    Has anyone here actually fired the new HK45? I understand they are very new and hard to find at the moment. It may be helpful though if someone had first hand experience with both and could comment. None of the ranges local to me have the HK45 for rent so I can't try it. I have fired a couple 1911s and thought they were manageable for me.

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    I am a 1911 shooter & will be when I die. There are 2 that I believe fall into the "best for the buck" catagory.
    Springfield Armory 1911A1.
    I have a Kimber & the SA. SA is a 5" gun while the K is a 4".
    Daily carry is the K for weight since it is a CDP.
    When there is a high threat level I go to the Springer. ie:Hurricane Rita in Texas or Katrina in La.

    Other one I like the looks of & the reviews I have read is the Tauras P1911. It is cheaper than even the SA but it does not yet have the verifiable long term track record. I would not be afraid of it though. I own a Tarus revolver & it is totally reliable. I would never think their 1911 would be any different.
    My .02 & some think it worth about half that.
    LT

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    a glock 21 has accuracy of 3" at 25 yards - ~$550
    a colt 1911 has accuracy of 2" at 25 yards - ~$800
    an STI 1911 has accuracy of 1" at 25 yds - ~$1500

    value for your money?
    so what if i am off 2" over a 1500 gun!

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    For around four hundred bucks or less you can pick up a Ruger P345. They are accurate and a pleasure to shoot. It is a double action first shot and single action after that. The safety is also a decocker. It is as safe as a revolver with one in the chamber and it's been around long enough that Ruger has all the bugs worked out. Poly frame so it's light. I love mine. Give it a look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hideit View Post
    a glock 21 has accuracy of 3" at 25 yards - ~$550
    a colt 1911 has accuracy of 2" at 25 yards - ~$800
    an STI 1911 has accuracy of 1" at 25 yds - ~$1500

    value for your money?
    so what if i am off 2" over a 1500 gun!
    I had a Glock at one point (9mm variant) and sold it off when I fired my HK P30. It was no comparison for me. Reliable? yes accurate? yes better for me? not really

    Money isn't the issue, but I was simply wondering if there was one that was surprising for the money paid. You know, like when you are looking at electronics, find something that does it all and the price is cheap and nobody really knows why (except maybe name).

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