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    baby desert eagle compact 9 mm polymer

    what is the good, bad and the ugly on this firearm?

    (there is a a lot of info on the baby eagles out there, but the pistols come in so many variations, it is hard to pick through all the available opinions/data...)

    thanks

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    I just purchased a full sized Baby eagle.But I did handle the compact polymer while I was selecting my puchase..It has all the same features of the bigger models in a smaller frame.(better for CC)

    I'm not into "plastic",but it seemed like a well balanced little gun.

    They do feature a real nice safety/decocker mounted on the slide and the fit and action is of high quality.

    These are assembled from parts that are manufactured in the same plant as the EAA Witness series.(which is your basic copy of the CZ75)

    So you may be able to find a similar version Witness slightly cheaper,but I don't know if the quality will be as good.

    I have yet to find any negative problems with mine,except for the finish doesn't seem to be very scratch resistant.(The display model was scatched up pretty bad)

    I hope this helps some.

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    I have searched high and low for one of these in poly. I've been to 5 shops in the past week. Even the two compacts listed on gunbroker.com are the steel framed version which adds over half a pound to the gun, making it too heavy for all day, every day carry. I won't order one directly because I really want to hold it first. Let us know if you ever get your hands on one. I'll do the same.

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    i held one at a gun show a couple weeks ago. i liked it. thats why i can't stop thinking about the darn thing and want to know more about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehandgun View Post
    i held one at a gun show a couple weeks ago. i liked it. thats why i can't stop thinking about the darn thing and want to know more about it.
    I'll remember this. I'm going to a shop tomorrow and if I have the good fortune to hold one, and I like it, I won't be letting it go.

    It's even hard to find tech/spec data. I went through multiple searches and sites just to get the actual spec differences between the poly and the steel frame. I couldn't even find this on the manufacturers site.

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    MRI's website specs are awful. Difficult to follow, and don't give much info. I like the way those compacts look...I imagine they're very well built, but built with a purpose unlike the DEs.

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    And that is where members like myself come in handy...
    From my personal experience with the Baby Eagle Semi-Compact 9mm, I am very pleased with it. Its accuracy is very very well. The reliability is 100%. And the recoil is also very good. It has a half-cocked feature as well as double/single action. The sights are pretty easy to align to me. Low muzzle flash also(if this matters to anyone). I would recommend this handgun to anyone looking to own a 9mm. Here, I'll provide a few photos of mine to give you a good visual of what I carry.



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    Thanks Polyguy. Where/how did you find that one and have you seen any compacts out there? What is the width and weight? I'll assume the compact will be the same width and 3-5 ounces lighter.

    Is it top heavy? When I hold an XD SC9 vs. a Glock 19, the XD feels (and looks) very top heavy and unbalanced. The Glock has a lower horizontal center line so it's not so top heavy. Looking for your thoughts on the Eagle.

    Thanks.

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    this is what i figured out from the magnum research site;

    * Black, polymer frame, slide safety, decocker
    * Double action/Single action
    * Barrel length 3.64" (compact)
    * Grip, short 3 1/4"
    * Weight w/empty magazine 1 lb. 11.8 oz. (9mm)
    * Weight w/empty magazine 1 lb. 10.8 oz. (.40S&W)
    * Overall Length 7 1/4"
    * Height 5"
    * Width 1 1/8"

    the part number of the one i would want is: MR9912BL

    you can see it here (out of stock);
    http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/prod...ducts_id=83358

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    polyguy;

    how is holding up to use? slide finish, etc. is it fussy about ammo? any particulars we should know as potential owners? thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsig1 View Post
    Thanks Polyguy. Where/how did you find that one and have you seen any compacts out there? What is the width and weight? I'll assume the compact will be the same width and 3-5 ounces lighter.

    Is it top heavy? When I hold an XD SC9 vs. a Glock 19, the XD feels (and looks) very top heavy and unbalanced. The Glock has a lower horizontal center line so it's not so top heavy. Looking for your thoughts on the Eagle.

    Thanks.
    It's not top heavy when it's full of ammo

    -Jeff-

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    Appears the baby eagles in about any format are far and few between.
    Not that the other major CZ types, CZ or Tanfoglio (EAA Witness) are any more abundant.

    If it ain't on gunbroker, it's probably not out there.. much.. except hiding in some display case quietly amongst the sea of glocks, XD's and 1911s.

    I think word got out among all the folks that read the gunblast write-up etc.. and MR's supply ran dry of the "normal-non-handcannon" pistols by IMI for MR. Might contact MR directly to see if they can help you find one??

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    Dsig1,
    Your quite welcome. My local gun shop had to special order it actually. It was $485. I had been researching that gun for about 4 months before buying it. Digging up reviews, asking/posting around, talking to CZ owners, etc. I fell in love with the grip of the Jericho years back. And when I saw it renamed and in polymer...I had to have one. I've only seen compacts at gun shows.
    The compacts don't fit my hand well. I have medium-sized hands by the way.

    As far as being top heavy, I can't really say. The polymer is strong and the angle/design of the grip balances it out. So, I don't feel that slight "shift or hang" of weight.

    Well, sometimes the manufacture can/do get specs wrong. So, I just took out my tape measure and measured it.

    Length:
    7 1/2 inches.
    Height:
    5 5/8 inches(with factory mags inserted).
    5 1/2 inches( with after market 16rd CZ/EAA Witness mags)

    Width:
    1 1/2 inch.

    Weight:
    Haha my scale in the bathroom isn't that sensitive. But compared to my G17, it is a little heavier. I once carried a Smith 645 so, there is definitely no complaint here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehandgun View Post
    polyguy;

    how is holding up to use? slide finish, etc. is it fussy about ammo? any particulars we should know as potential owners? thanks!
    Well, I take decent care of all of my firearms. I don't cuddle it and I don't drop it either. Everything is still strong & functioning as the 1st day of ownership. I have less than 300 rounds through it so far and there is no sign of stress,fatigue, or failure with this pistol. The finish could have been more tougher.
    Now the ammo report, I've only shot Winchester 115gr FMJs through it...which shot flawlessly. So, I can't give a broad report on how it holds up against different brands, sorry. I've loaded it with Winchester 147gr JHPs that were given to me by a friend. I plan on running the JHPs on my next range trip. The manual warrants against +p ammo.


    A smooth shooting pistol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehandgun View Post
    what is the good, bad and the ugly on this firearm?

    (there is a a lot of info on the baby eagles out there, but the pistols come in so many variations, it is hard to pick through all the available opinions/data...)

    thanks
    Have you looked at the CZ Rami P? I know you can find them everywhere and i have never had an issue with my 9mm. I just a thought seeing as the baby eagle is similar the CZ might fit the bill at about the same price tag.

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    ok, i have picked up a rami p (or was it a all metal rami...cant be sure) and found the slide to be pretty difficult to rack, the whole thing just seemed really stiff and awkward to me and i really wanted to like the gun - it looked great on paper. i had the same problem with the springfield EMP and boy i love the looks of that one too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluehandgun View Post
    ok, i have picked up a rami p (or was it a all metal rami...cant be sure) and found the slide to be pretty difficult to rack, the whole thing just seemed really stiff and awkward to me and i really wanted to like the gun - it looked great on paper. i had the same problem with the springfield EMP and boy i love the looks of that one too.
    Hmmm.. thats to bad. I didn't mind that the gun was extremly tight when I bought it because I heard they need about 500 break in rounds. Sure enough with about 700 rounds thru it my Rami is a really smooth gun. I think the early .40 cal Ramis have really given the gun a bad name and alot of people dont realize that CZ is on their 3rd gen of Rami. I must say that I didn't like the feel of my pinky hanging off the bottom so I moddified a Pearce XD grip extention to fit my magazine and now I couldn't be happier. Good luck in your quest for the Baby Eagle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew_Rami_P View Post
    Hmmm.. thats to bad. I didn't mind that the gun was extremly tight when I bought it because I heard they need about 500 break in rounds. Sure enough with about 700 rounds thru it my Rami is a really smooth gun. I think the early .40 cal Ramis have really given the gun a bad name and alot of people dont realize that CZ is on their 3rd gen of Rami. I must say that I didn't like the feel of my pinky hanging off the bottom so I moddified a Pearce XD grip extention to fit my magazine and now I couldn't be happier. Good luck in your quest for the Baby Eagle
    The early .40 ramis did give them a bad name for sure. I think they're fine guns, I almost got my hands on a new one on gunbroker with the SS slide for $350 but the guy sold all 5 that he had within 2 days. They weren't even listed for more then like 5 hours each. The ramis I have held were also pretty tight, but as Drew said they loosen up. The only thing I thought was that the slide was so short (height wise), that I would sometimes grab the frame and slide at the same time. Not a big deal though I'm sure you get used to it, I just have wide fingers.

    -Jeff-

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    I found your gun in stock and actually held it on saturday, I don't understand why you want it lol but to each his own I guess. Call Gallensons & Associates
    166 E. 200 South, UT 84111 801-328-2016
    and see if you can buy it from them and have it shipped to a local dealer or talk to your local dealer and see if they will buy it so you can hold it first.

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    Thanks for all of the input. I decided on and purchased a nearly new XD SC 9 last week. I'm pretty happy with it. Also having the .40 Tactical, I'm used to the XD trigger. While at that shop I also held a new Rami P and didn't love the slide or the way it fit my hand. The Rami was $399 new and the XD was $359 so it was a no brainer to me. I'm planning to run a couple of hundred rounds through the new XD tomorrow. That Baby Eagle Compact will have to wait.

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