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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPreacher View Post
    I guess I am looking for the best possible carry weapon......it's all in how you phrase the question. I would like one gun that could be CC and used to perhaps shoot some IDPA in the future.

    Searching for that all elusive perfect gun.............
    That gun really doesn't exist unless you want to and can comfortably carry a true 1911.

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    There's a ton of 9mm's that can produce those results with a few mods anyway..The hard part is getting the person shooting it to do their part.

    As me Pappy used to say it was a poor mechanic that blamed his tools

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPreacher View Post
    I guess I am looking for the best possible carry weapon......it's all in how you phrase the question. I would like one gun that could be CC and used to perhaps shoot some IDPA in the future.

    Searching for that all elusive perfect gun.............
    Quote Originally Posted by Dredd View Post
    That gun really doesn't exist unless you want to and can comfortably carry a true 1911.
    My G34 can do it, when I'm up to the challenge. It's shorter and lighter than a 1911A1, but a bit thicker (not very much). 2X shots on tap, low bore axis for minimal muzzle flip, and I understand the G34 is VERY popular in IDPA.


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    H&K P7 ... Oh, under $500.00...

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    Yeah, that means any G34 will have to be a used one, too.

    But hey, that's okay, a new gun becomes used the moment you fire the first shot, right?
    No "safe queens" in MY household...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPreacher View Post
    I guess I am asking about the capability of the gun.....that way I know that the "potential" accuracy is there. Oh....and thanks for "the gospel" reference.....lol. Maybe which gun has the most potential accuracy would have been a better question.

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    HK P7


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    It's all in the shooter.But I think different sight designs have alot to do with "long range" accuracy.

    Most handgun front sight blades are wide enough to cover a 2" area of a target at 25yrds...kinda makes it hard to pin-point every shot without lots and lots of practice with the same gun,form,ammo(you'll need a nit-picky hand loader here) and conditions.

    But,as everyone else has stated....It's the shooter that pulls the trigger.

    For example:

    I was at the range shooting my Star BM (old surplus 9mm).I was getting decent 4" groups at about 15yds.Then my buddy hands me his NEW S&W 9mm.It has a longer barrel,isn't worn out and is of a newer design.I should get great groups with this ,I thought.NOPE...all over the map with the first half of the magazine.By the time I when through 2 magazines I was hitting the target with slightly better groups then my BM.

    It goes to show...not all 9mm's react the same and it's up to the shooter to staighten it out!

    Good luck

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    I'm sure you are reading all these suggestions and wondering, why hasn't anyone named the "perfect accurate" handgun. Lets say the vast majority of $500.00 stock auto's are created equal. The problem is not all shooters are equal. For example, I have an expensive custom auto. I took it to the range and fired a decent grouping. But, I thought it could do better, so I had one of the range employees shoot it. Yikes! His holes were spread out further than mine. So, as much as it has been repeated, it's the shooter most of the time, not the gun. If I may suggest in that price range maybe you should look at the Glock 17/19 and the SA XD9. Both are poly and would work for CC and IDPA. But, handle both side by side, because they are different in design. Good luck on your adventure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Niner View Post
    My G34 can do it, when I'm up to the challenge. It's shorter and lighter than a 1911A1, but a bit thicker (not very much). 2X shots on tap, low bore axis for minimal muzzle flip, and I understand the G34 is VERY popular in IDPA.
    Well, would you use it as CCW? It is rather large after all.

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    Do this...find out what hanguns are popular in IDPA, that are priced around your $500 mark.Then within those selections,determine which one(s) Would also be good for a CCW.Then it's up to personal preference between your final selections.

    It might not be that 2" group shooter your hoping for...but it does cover both uses you are intending to use it for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dredd View Post
    Well, would you use it as CCW? It is rather large after all.
    I have, and I will again at some point. But I have smaller guns on the same pattern that will do the same job (with slightly lesser accuracy) but are much easier to conceal, so the G34 doesn't get the nod too often.

    I already compared it to a 1911A1, which some folks have regularly been carrying concealed for the last 40-50+ years. It is also smaller than a 4-inch barreled S&W K-frame revolver, like a M10/M15/M19, that have been successfully used for CCW for decades. Click link for a photo from our HGF Photo Gallery and a description:

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    Very interesting thread....

    Guys,
    Thanks so much for tons of information. This has been very helpful to me in my search for "the ultimate weapon." You guys are the greatest!! Right now I have a Smith and Wesson 4006....great gun, very heavy. I just purchased a Sig P6....looking forward to taking it to the range.

    Interestingly I have a CZ82 9 x 18 mm with a polygonal barrel. This thing is crazy accurate. At my CC class it out shot every gun in the class.

    Again, thanks for all the help.

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    Those are all solid guns in each of their respective classes. As long as you spend the time to get good with any (or all) of them, you'll be well-armed.

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