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    Quote Originally Posted by Dredd View Post
    Right, but what I meant was that every gun has flaws or has people who don't like them. The ultimate weapon should be comfortable for everyone, accurate without fail, work in the worst conditions. That weapon doesn't exist yet.

    This gun cannot exist because a gun will not and cannot be comfortable for every person. People have different size hands and no one gun will fit them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dredd View Post
    Right, but what I ment was that evern gun has flaws or has people who don't like them. The ultimate weapon should be comfortable for everyone, accurate without fail, work in the worst conditions. That weapon doesn't exist yet.
    And by that definition, I don't think it ever will, if it requires agreement on one or more features by any group of human beings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Niner View Post
    And by that definition, I don't think it ever will, if it requires agreement on one or more features by any group of human beings.
    That's why I can't say the "ultimate gun" exists

    Closest i've seen is something like the HK P30 or HK45 which have adjustable grips. Maybe even the M&P but then there are other things people are picky about. *shrug*

    I say find one that is comfortable and then try it. If it shoots well then you found your gun

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    If you're looking for a great weapon straight out of the box that doesn't require much modification pick up a Sig at the shop and run some rounds through it.

    I love my P229r SCT. It comes standard with a TruGlo tritium fiber optic front sight, Siglite rear sight, four 17 rounds mags for the 9mm version (14 rounds mags for the .40), feels great in my hand, and shoots far more accurately then I'll ever be able to shoot it. Plus in 9mm it's cheap, easy, and fun to shoot.

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