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    kansas45 is offline Junior Member
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    Carry

    I can't carry yet as Kansas hasn't let us do that yet. When it becomes lawful to do so, I' ll carry my Springfield 45 ultra Compact mostly I think.

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    I'll stick with my 8 car .45 cal. freight train(with a 2nd mag it can be a 15 car train

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    My first thought on this subject run the same as many others. SHOT PLACEMENT! I prefer single stack guns. the 2 brands and 3 cal. that i have the best shot placement with are the makarov PM in 9X18 and .380 and the compact S&W single stack .45ACP. of all the guns I've had, these three are the ones that have been the most joy to shot and the ones i feel the most comfortable with.

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    Echo! Echo!
    Shot placement is the single most important factor in a gunfight.

    Having said that, the 9 mm is certainly enough to stop a man, even the .22 is enough to stop a man - if shot placement protocols are followed.

    Too often shot placement becomes random in the stress of a gunfight, so many of us rely on a caliber that will stop the BG with a blind shot over the hood of a car.

    .40s and .45s are proven man stoppers but not with hits to random extremeties(excluding the head of course).

    Now, we're down to the nuts. Which caliber do you have absolute confidence in? Which caliber will stop the BG with one round?

    I feel the only pistol that will result in a knockdown with a 50-60% target acquisition is the 10mm.

    Many LEOs are forbidden to carry 10mm because of overpenetration concerns.
    The powerful 10mm round is the round I carry.

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    I have never fired a 10mm but I will say this,I think there would be a great many asians(japanese) and germans that would dis-agree with you about 1 shot stopping ability of the .45(If they were still alive to dis-agree.) :-D

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    I remember the good old days when a rock would due.

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    I carry a Springfield Ultra Compact 45ACP and a CZ PO1 9MM mostly in the summer, but in the winter switch over to a Witness 10MM Compact for the heavier clothing wearers..

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter
    I have never fired a 10mm but I will say this,I think there would be a great many asians(japanese) and germans that would dis-agree with you about 1 shot stopping ability of the .45(If they were still alive to dis-agree.) :-D
    +1 for Scooter

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    SHOOT TO STOP

    I believe it boils down to the fact a person should carry what they can shoot a lot to practice with. If you can not shoot the weapon to hit the target--it don't matter how big-how small-how many it carries--if you can not hit with it --you can not stop with it--#1
    once mastered the art of hitting something then you can worry about big and stop power--#2

    #3 #4 #5 #6--practice practice practice practice

    (also have fun)

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    Well, one thing about the 10mm, if the bullet misses them, the blast may knock them down!

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    .40 Caliber man here. I just like the round. But if I had to choose between .45 or 9MM. I'd probably choose the 9 for capacity convience. However I agree with many other say, shot placement is key.

    Flinging your piece out and firing .45 rounds or 9mm rounds all over the place and not on the target won't do you any good at all. Best thing is to find the round that suits you the most and practice with it so you know what to expect behavior-wise from the round and gun.

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