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    redfalcon302 is offline Junior Member
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    Walther P22 or S&W SW9VE?

    Hey guys, i'm new to the forum and i know this sounds like an odd question, but i'll soon have about $300 or so and I was wondering which would be better. As of late, I have a Chinese SKS and a Marlin Model 60 22LR. I'm looking to buy my first handgun. I found a lightly used Sigma at a local pawn shop for $275 (I could probably get it for $250 cash), and I saw the P22 at a local pawn shop/gun dealer for $299. Which would be the better choice in your opinion? Is the S&W a good deal or not so much? I'm probably more interested in plinking than self-defense, which leads me to the P22 (and cheap ammo). On the other hand, a 9MM for less than $300 is also very tempting and i can get ammo for about $.11/rd. I'd like to know plusses/minusses of both and just some raw personal opinion. I'll probably end up with both soon enough, but which would be first choice for you? Thanks in advance for your help! Also, would a Kel-Tec .380 for $269 be a good choice to keep in my night stand just in case?

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    The Sigmas can be purchased new for $299, so I would not look upon a used price of $250 to be a good one. There was a $50 rebate for a new purchase as well, but I'm not sure if it went past the end of Dec.. Check the S&W website, as $250 for a new one is not a bad price at all. Personally though, I feel that a used Sig or Glock, or even one of the Walther P1's left over from the German army makes a better choice than a Sigma, mostly because of the much better trigger pulls.

    The P22 is usually about $299 new, and can sometimes be found on sale for $250. We have one, only because my wife likes to shoot it. Overall though, a Ruger or Browning makes a better .22 auto..

    A 9mm would make a better home defense/nightstand gun that would a P3AT, but then again, a .380 is better than nothing. I would say get a larger handgun for range/practice/plinking/carry/home defense use, and once you have enough money, get a P3AT for back-up or deep cover duties. IMO the P3AT is meant to be more of a concealed-carry weapon and not as a home defense gun, especially since one doesn't need to worry about overall size in an HD gun...

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    I can't say for sure about the Sigma, but that sounds kinda high for used. $299 for a used P22 is definately too high, you can get them new for about that price.

    Spring for a .22 Browning Buckmark and use that to learn how to shoot a handgun. You'll never regret having that pistol; ammo is dirt cheap, it's accurate enough, and it's easier to break down for cleaning that the Ruger or the P22. Having said that, I must admit I have all 3 and probably shoot the P22 more that the others; but, I haven't had the Buckmark that long.

    While you're practicing, practicing, practicing with the .22, you'll get a better idea of what you want your next handgun to be. At the range, you'll probably get the opportunity to shoot pistols that other people have. I've never said "No" when asked "Can I try that?".

    Don't discount the lowly .22LR round as useful for home defense if that's your first handgun. I haven't met anyone yet willing to volunteer to let those puny rounds bounce off their chest.

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    redfalcon302 is offline Junior Member
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    THanks guys! I suppose I wasn't clear about the P22: The $299 is brand new. THere is a gun show at the end of the month here in Knoxville, so I'll just go there and hunt around for a while and see what I can dig up. THe BUckmark looks like a good enough gun, but I really, really like the combat look of the P22. That's what drew me in. I can get a cheap 22 Semi-auto for around $150, but it'll likely not be reliable, and the P22 just looks awesome. I know looks are kind of a weird thing to look for in a gun like this, but i'll be holding it and using it all the time, so i want something I can smile about every time i knock over a bunch of spent shotshells and cans. $300 seems fine for a durable, sweet looking 22 pistol and ammo is plentiful (I just shot off about 2000 rounds the other day with some friends). Oh, you made a comment about the range; I'm blessed enough to have a house out in the sticks with a built-in gun range from where they excavated for the house, so range fees are nonexistant! The Buckmark is about $350 or so isn't it? I do know how to use a handgun as I have shot many 9MM, .45 ACP, 40 S&W, etc. I just have never owned one. I don't care about dead-on accuracy; I'll get a Ruger with a scope for that later. I just want a reliable plinker that looks like it would be at home across the pond in the Middle East on the side of a Marine. THanks for the help guys!

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    P22

    Here's a little bit of information about the P22 on the AR15 forum. I bought my wife one of these a few years ago, and it was not all that fun. I found this site, did a few of the tricks and now it's as reliable as it should be. Even took it squirrel hunting last year. The newer models seem to be reliable out of the box, but the above link is a great resource should trouble arise. Just a thought, and I hope it helps.

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