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    Favorite 9MM Load

    Which bullet weight do you prefer? Why? Which load is most accurate in your pistol? Most reliable.

    I don't own a 9MM and would like specific feedback on the great old caliber.

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    I don’t have a lot of experience reloading with many different powers and bullets. I have used Unique and HS-6 with 125gr LRN. Best load so far is 4gr. Unique at 1.165 OAL in an H & K USP 9mm. Good groups at 20 yards have not checked past that.

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    How 'bout factory ammo? I personally plink with Remington UMC 115gr FMJs. I don't have huge amounts of experience with various loads, but UMC is relatively inexpensive and fires very cleanly (a thin film of soot, as opposed to a lot of rough grit). Winchester White Box is dirtier when fired, but other than that is comparable in most respects to the Remington. Blazer is dirtier still, but it's cheap stuff (aluminum casing is cheaper than brass). My defense loads are Federal 124gr HydraShoks. The kick from them is a little stronger and snappier than the plinking rounds but very manageable, and the report is deeper.

    My Ruger P95 will feed just about anything; the only failure I've ever had was a failure to lock back, and that was my fault (my off-hand thumb was on the slide release). It's going on 1000 rounds, mostly of UMC with a couple hundred WWBs and a few dozen Federals, and it's never had a bullet-related problem, so I think I've found my loads.

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    My Favorite load is a 115 Gr. Plated Berry's Flat Point Bullet over 3.9 Grains of Clays Powder. It's accurate & the recoilt is mild, very pleasant to shoot.

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    I think the most effective self defense load in 9mm is Corbon's DPX. Unfortunately it's pretty expensive. I think the Gold Dots are outstanding also. Gold Dot is the issued round of the NYPD.

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    I was in Baghdad the end of '03 on some contract work, and our PSD's carried 9mm Federal HydraShoks. Now, these guys were all ex-Delta Force, and could have any sidearm their black little hearts desired, so I figure if it's good enough for them THERE it's good enough for me HERE.

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    I like double tap ammo's 124gr +p Gold Dot load. It's a standard +p loading that offers the highest ballistic performance of any 9mm hollow point on the market in that weight. Using the Gold Dot bullet from speer too which is renound for being good. For standard practice ammo, anything will do that is cheap. my P30 shoots anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dredd View Post
    I like double tap ammo's 124gr +p Gold Dot load. It's a standard +p loading that offers the highest ballistic performance of any 9mm hollow point on the market in that weight. Using the Gold Dot bullet from speer too which is renound for being good. For standard practice ammo, anything will do that is cheap. my P30 shoots anything.
    How is Double Tap's different than the factory Speer? Their website has a 50-round box at $25.95, which is cheaper than Speer (20-round box is $18.95).

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivehourfrenzy View Post
    How is Double Tap's different than the factory Speer?
    Loaded hotter for higher velocity and energy. It's noticeable when you shoot them, but not uncontrollable. I like them because they use the same Gold Dot bullet, but with more power behind it.

    Compare the numbers between them and you'll see the differences.

    BTW: tactical Defense Solutions sells Speer Gold Dot 124gr +p for $23.00 per box of 50. They're sold out atm though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dredd View Post
    Loaded hotter for higher velocity and energy. It's noticeable when you shoot them, but not uncontrollable. I like them because they use the same Gold Dot bullet, but with more power behind it.

    Compare the numbers between them and you'll see the differences.

    BTW: tactical Defense Solutions sells Speer Gold Dot 124gr +p for $23.00 per box of 50. They're sold out atm though.
    So are Double Tap's ammunition just reloaded versions of other brand's of ammo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivehourfrenzy View Post
    So are Double Tap's ammunition just reloaded versions of other brand's of ammo?
    well, they use their own nickle coated brass with their name and markings on the cartridge. They just buy speer's gold dot bullets when they load them. So yes you could call it a factory reload. However, it's the same bullet just their own casing with hotter loadings. I tried them, liked them, and kept using them. They feed reliably, shoot accurately, are controllable for me, and I have never found a dud. I could just as easily buy Winchester Ranger, Hornady, Federal hydrashock or Tactical ammo, Cor Bon (which is a factory reload too using Barnes' bullets), or Speer made PD ammo. I just have had good luck with Double Tap and they use a thoroughly tested bullet in the gold dot.

    Interestingly enough Speer is owned by Federal which make two different products that almost compete against eachother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dredd View Post
    well, they use their own nickle coated brass with their name and markings on the cartridge. They just buy speer's gold dot bullets when they load them. So yes you could call it a factory reload. However, it's the same bullet just their own casing with hotter loadings. I tried them, liked them, and kept using them. They feed reliably, shoot accurately, are controllable for me, and I have never found a dud. I could just as easily buy Winchester Ranger, Hornady, Federal hydrashock or Tactical ammo, Cor Bon (which is a factory reload too using Barnes' bullets), or Speer made PD ammo. I just have had good luck with Double Tap and they use a thoroughly tested bullet in the gold dot.

    Interestingly enough Speer is owned by Federal which make two different products that almost compete against eachother.
    Well I just ordered a box of 50...124gr +P Gold Dots. That's interesting that Speer is owned by Federal. A lot of times it's Federal versus Speer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivehourfrenzy View Post
    Well I just ordered a box of 50...124gr +P Gold Dots. That's interesting that Speer is owned by Federal. A lot of times it's Federal versus Speer.
    I suppose it was just a buyout or merger of some type between the two and they decided to keep the two product lines because they both do so well but then, I don't really know what the deal with it is.

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    3.5 Tight Group

    Zero 125 JHP

    Shot very well in my Glock 23 with the LW 9mm
    convertion barrel

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    I guess they figured both lines have a ton of diehard users with brand loyalty. Like if GM bought Ford...they'd keep the Ford product lines open so they could still sell to the Ford fans. Also, if Federal or Speer have any usage contracts with any LE agencies or such, it would make things less complicated to keep both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivehourfrenzy View Post
    I guess they figured both lines have a ton of diehard users with brand loyalty. Like if GM bought Ford...they'd keep the Ford product lines open so they could still sell to the Ford fans. Also, if Federal or Speer have any usage contracts with any LE agencies or such, it would make things less complicated to keep both.
    The New York police department exclusively uses Speer Gold Dot 124gr +p ammo in their Glock 19s. that is AFAIK.

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    If it's good enough for the NYPD, it's good enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivehourfrenzy View Post
    If it's good enough for the NYPD, it's good enough for me.
    Don't be too sure! They carry a good load now, but until fairly recently, they issued solids like lead SWCs for .38, and round-nose ball (!!) for 9mm. Equipment selection at NYPD is heavily influenced by politics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    Don't be too sure! They carry a good load now, but until fairly recently, they issued solids like lead SWCs for .38, and round-nose ball (!!) for 9mm. Equipment selection at NYPD is heavily influenced by politics.
    That's dumb...ball ammo in 9mm? Wow. Well, I think we'll all agree that Gold Dots are one of the best out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fivehourfrenzy View Post
    If it's good enough for the NYPD, it's good enough for me.
    Don't be too sure! They carry a good load now, but until fairly recently, they issued solids like lead SWCs for .38, and round-nose ball (!!) for 9mm. Equipment selection at NYPD is heavily influenced by politics.
    I've read several articles by Ayoob suggesting modelling your SD weapon choices after LE is a good idea when you need to testify in a SD shooting.

    Expanding bullets and large wound channels might not be considered humane by the politically correct. So I can understand why the politicos would limit LE and military to ball ammo.

    On the other hand assholes who threaten my life and/or those of my family are not deserving of humane treatment.

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