View Poll Results: Do Highpoints Suck?
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Yes, they are sucktastic and I would never trust my life with one.
No, I love them. They are awesome, relaiable, and cheap enough to put 2 in every room.
Kind of like riding a moped. Fun but you wouldn't want your friends to see you.
Yes for the range / no for Carry (due to reliability)
Do Highpoints Suck?
I've been looking at other forums and reviews on sites and G&Ammo, and I am trying to determine if High-points suck. I have heard all kinds of stuff - they jam, FTF,etc. But I have also heard: they are reliable, sturdy, etc. I have only held one at a gun show. I have never actually shot one: what do you guys think?
Please note that they are cheap enough that you could have them everywhere. Like that cupboard gun in Kill Bill.
What is that sucking sound I hear?
I would never buy one. My brother in law bought a use rifle in 9mm off a guy and it's a little shooter so far. He has a little problem with abandon dogs, cats, armadilos and such. So far he's cleaned the place some with it. He takes the hogs with a old 30-30 Winchester.
I've heard decent stuff about the carbine they sell. I prefer my STorm - but people seem happy with it. Not sure I would trust it for self defense.
But, I'd never want a Hi Point handgun.
This was the official stance from the church about Hi Points
I would never own a highpoint. Then again, I rock a modded moped
I say sucktastic. They make Taurus look like Les Baer.
Well, I was gonna post this elsewhere, but the Hi Point bashing has piqued my interest. Please read the post before lambasting me...
Oh, and for more info...no forget it. I'm not sure anyone here will be interested. Maybe later.
And yes, I know, it's not a really pretty gun. So what?
Okay, so I received my new Hi Point c9 Monday night and promised that I would hit the range Tuesday to work her out. Here's the result. Keep in mind, I've been shooting for less than 3 months - about 10 trips to the range with various pistols.
Keep in mind I wanted a decent gun to learn the basics on. At $120, with a lifetime warranty, great customer service, and a solid following, how could I go wrong?
Apologies in advance for all the pics...
The target afterwards
40 rounds, 30', right hand one-handed (that hole outside the circle was from when I folded the target over later)
40 rounds, 21' left hand one-handed
21 rounds, 10', two-handed
40 rounds, 21', two-handed
21 rounds, 30', two-handed
40 rounds, 30', two-handed
I shot 202 rounds of WWB from Wal-Mart over a period of about an hour. I shot sorta slowish with a traditional two handed grip, and did some one-handed shooting with both hands. My impressions are that the gun has recoil properties similar to a Glock 19, and better than the G26. Also, the sights, while needing a bit of tweaking, were pretty good right out of the box. Shoots as straight as I can, I suppose. I didn't do anything to the c9 before shooting other than removing the safety sticker from the grip. I noticed afterwards that the residue on my hands and the front of the gun were noticeably less than every other gun I've shot.
So how did the gun perform, you ask? Well, there were 2 failures to feed (FTF? or is that failure to fire? I'm a newb!), one in the 4th magazine, the other in the 12th. I noticed on one the bullet was slightly nose down, while the other was slightly nose sideways. Slight pressure on the rear of the slide gave enough impetus to load the rounds, so no problem.
All in all, I love it! It performed how I was led to believe it would by all the folks at HPFF, so I think I got my hands on a good, inexpensive pistol. I look forward to getting to know this little girl in the near future. I promise to keep up a range log to track any issues, and I like to take pics, but I won't post too many more...if I can help myself!
I have to admit that I got "the look" from the range guys at Davi's - you know, that look that says "Hi Point? Really? What a hunk o' junk!" I made a point afterwards to tell them how great everything was, but I'm sure it failed to impress them at all. Ah well, they don't need to be happy, I do.
And I am! Sweeeet!
So, basically, it has a 1% failure rate shooting hardball. I'll pass, thanks.
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Take it home and feild strip it and give it a good cleaning. Lube it up and the next time at the range it may run 100%. Good luck with it.
Ya know - I guess I'll say no more since someone here actually has one now. I try not to talk bad about people's guns. The thread has changed a bit - it's not just someone THINKING of getting one.
I'll say that I would not buy one. But, that's about it.
I'm with Baldy, clean and lube the gun and clean the mags and go shoot it some more. Post the results of your next range trip.
Originally Posted by Baldy
Originally Posted by Mike Barham
You know, I've spent the last hour or so looking around the different sections of this site, and every manufacturers page had folks that have problems with their guns. Beretta, Colt, Ruger, hell, even Glock, everything from firing pin problems to bullets stuck in the barrel. What's the saying? Anything made by man is subject to failure? A fluff and buff is a procedure that many people use to enhance reliability, and many of them do it (or more precisely, have it done) on their high dollar weapons. Is it so bad that a Hi Point can benefit from the same?
I think 2 hitches early during the break-in period is not a bad record. I'd say the jury is still out on this matter. It could get worse, but it'll probably get better with use.
I'm buying a Hi Point Carbine tomorrow. I've considered all the bad talk and the good talk. I don't care, I'll check it out. Plus, with the aftermarket stock it may not be half bad. We'll see, I'm open to either posibility.
I look at it this way. Every firearm I buy just may have to save my life one day. sure some are only range guns and will usually not be considered for carry but one never knows. That being said I would never trust my life to a hi point pistol. I can deal with ugly..I've owned Glocks...And I do have a few not so pretty pistols in my collection. but every one of them will always fire when I put one under the hammer. I have tried several hi points over the years and even had the chance to try the Hastings (pre hi point made in Lima Ohio) And all of them had feed problems that persisted even after attempts to make feeding easier. For me that creates that little bit of doubt that will make a pistol nothing more than trade fodder or possibly a paperweight.
If it were me I'd get another couple hundred bucks and get something else.
I'm a huge 1911 fan and I'm sure there are plenty of people that can find issues with those too. But I have yet to come across a problem with one I could not fix with a little time. I do most all my target shooting at 35 to 55 yards and like seeing those 3 inch (or less) groups. I used a 40VE Smith shooting for my CC card. Best $280.00 I ever spent
Does a good reliable pistol have to cost over $600.00? Hell no. There are some bargains out there that will make a shooter a lot happier and not make you sell your family for medical experiments
I do hope and pray that the Hi point owners are not having the issues I've seen but I'll wager that they are in a pretty exclusive club.
Originally Posted by Ky_Shooter
So what you're saying is that either a Hi Point isn't worth the time, or that it just can't be fixed. I think you are wrong on both counts. Worse comes to worse, send it in to Beemiller and if it really can't be fixed, you get a new pistol. Barring that, it seems that the TLC you'd put into any other pistol will get a similar result in a Hi Point.
And the hipointfirearmsforums.com members are a pretty happy bunch all around.
I read in another forum a while back where a guy was swearing that the Hi Point next to him at the range shot the bullet out backwards and hit the guy next to the shooter.
That is representative of some of the idiot comments you hear when you mention the name Hi Point.
I have all sorts of weapons, and they all have their good and bad points, but the 3 Hi Point carbines and 3 Hi Point pistols that I own have been good investments considering the money that I have tied up in them.
The carbines and the 9mm pistol have given me zero problems from the start, and the .40 S&W and .45 ACP pistols have given me no problems since I figured out that I was limpwristing them, which will cause them to jam.
They are blowback pistols, and if you let your wrist fly up in the air when shooting, that can and often does cause a jam. Learn to keep your wrist stiff and that usually fixes the problem.
I belong to the Hi Point forum, and as most people know, forums are where people come looking for help, and we do have people that come there having trouble and needing help.
A lot of them we can help fix the problems their selves, limpwristing, buffing the feed ramp etc, and some we do recommend that they send them back to the factory for repairs.
Considering that Hi Point has a lifetime no questions asked no matter how many people has owned the weapon warranty, is is not a big deal to send them in. In fact, they like them to be sent in every few years so they can look them over and give them a good cleaning and replace any parts they think need replacing.
For as inexpensive as the weapons are , I think the manufactuer goes above and beyond to make sure that their customers are happy with their weapons.
To sum this up, don't listen to some guy that has never fired one of these weapons and is only telling you what he has read on the internet, or is repeating what his neighbors cousins sisters brothers mechanics aunt has said, find someone that personally has experience with the brand, or better yet, buy one yourself and check it out.
To the poster that had problems with his hi point pistol, did you get in contact with the company and send the gun in? If you still have it, they will still be glad to fix anything that needs to be fixed on it for you free of charge.
Happy shooting everyone and have a safe holiday season
Remember that the next day shipping costs close to $50 to send it in!
Originally Posted by waltham41
Originally Posted by Shipwreck
There is no requirement to send it in next day shipping, that's a myth. And Hi Point is well known for adding in extra things like a new mag for the trouble of shipping a gun back to them.
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