Originally Posted by Shipwreck

That's right. The offer for the "Legions of Germans screaming your name" was a mail in rebate deal.

yeah, I'm still all over the place, I dont know what to get. Now I'm looking into the M&P9c

Originally Posted by paine

yeah, I'm still all over the place, I dont know what to get. Now I'm looking into the M&P9c

I've heard that they are great pistols, and there's a rebate + extra mags promotion going on right now.

Try to hold one if you can. From various posts on other forums, it seems that some people's grip puts a finger over the mag release button, and they accidentally drop the mag while firing.

PhilR.

Originally Posted by PhilR.

I've heard that they are great pistols, and there's a rebate + extra mags promotion going on right now.

Try to hold one if you can. From various posts on other forums, it seems that some people's grip puts a finger over the mag release button, and they accidentally drop the mag while firing.

PhilR.

cool I didint know that, I'll keep that in mind!! they seem like great guns and I hear good things about them. TOO Many Choices, and alot of great guns.

Originally Posted by paine

.... "A wannabe Glock."

That was my first thought after laying eyes on Springfield Armory's XD9 pistol. Closer inspection of the slide revealed the words "Made in Croatia." Those are words that, when stamped on the slide of a handgun, aren't known to inspire the consumer's confidence.

--- They say USA all over them, thats a big trun away for me when a gun says Springfield armory USA but are made else where. They only guns I own that are not made in US are the german guns my Walther and HK, and well my Browning but I know the place of origin is not a problem with some but its still a trun of to me to see USA all over a gun and then hear they are made over seas. thanks.

Glocks aren't made in the US either...

Originally Posted by Spartan

Glocks aren't made in the US either...

Yup I know that, but they also don't say 'USA' all over then, I mean I know it says where its made and also says 'Springfield armory USA' and where its made but still.

It still looks like it would be a great carry gun, and I'm still thinking about it. thanks!

Originally Posted by tnoisaw

When you purchase a Walther P99 A/S full-size or compact model in 9mm, you IQ goes up 20 points, and legions of Germans cheer your name as you walk down the street.

How would ya know unless you spit German?

I'm assuming U meant "speak"?

Well, they send you a pocket translator with the "legion of germans"

If you're on a budget (like me) look at the Kel-Tec's. Either the P-11 or the PF-9. Both are 9mm and basically the same gun except the P-11 is double stack 10 rds and the PF-9 is single stack 7 rd. Both are reliable and accurate and the only bad thing I can say about them is that the trigger pull is rather heavy, although kits are available to lighten the pull. The P-11 was also available in .40 S&W and called the P-40. The Millineumn Pro series of Taurus pistols (available in .380, 9mm, .40, and .45) deserve mention too. I had a Mil-Pro PT140 .40 S&W and loved it, until I got stupid and sold it to buy a rifle. I know they're not Glock's, H-K's, Walther's, Khar's, or XD's, but money dosen't always talk the loudest. Just food for thought.

I'm a long standing Glock fan but recently made the mistake of shooting an XD 4" and G23 side by side at a local range that rents guns. The XD surprised me because I actually shot better with it than the Glock that I am acustomed to. Not exactly ready to part with my G19 in favor of an all XD line up but it sure gave me a new outlook on the XD along with a measure of respect. Regretably, I have not had the opportunity to try out the P99 or PX4 Storm that has also peaked my interest. Bottom line and as has already been mentioned try and rent and shoot as many offerings as you can find prior to purchase. Gun store fondling is a good start but nothing replaces actually putting rounds down range. Good luck to you as there are many fine offerings in the mid sized polymer class.

Tuefelhunden

I think I am going to try to find a PPS, they are hard to come by right now, but I'll keep looking. Still very unsure, the glock26, XDsd9 are good guns for the money, and I like the grip safty on the XD. Oh well I guess I'll just have to keep looking and one day I'll figure it out. Thanks!