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    Beretta Glock or H&K

    I have looked into a glock for a while now and had my heart set on one and just now heard of some safety issues. I have heard great things about all of them but I need a no BS unbiased judgement. I need a pistol that has a safety, price is not a problem also a gun that will last for a long time.

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    All modern semi-auto's have some type of safety, most have more than one, and many have a safety lever. All three of the makes you list have safeties. All three are known to produce an excellent product. Unless you can provide some detailed info as to what you want to do with a pistol, what caliber or size you want, and what type of safety mechanism you desire, it would not be possible to recommend one over the other.

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    Everyone has their biases. The Army gave me a Beretta but I prefer Glocks on my own time. Glocks are perfectly safe in the hands of competent shooters, who know to keep the booger hook off the bang switch until they are ready to shoot.

    As PhilR. pointed out, all three have safeties. What kind of "safety" do you want? A manual one? One that deactivates when you touch the trigger? One that lowers the hammer to double-action mode?

    Any of the three guns you mentioned will last for tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of rounds with reasonable maintenance.
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    I need an external manual safety just for safety reasons. I wasn't sure if the glock had an external safety but I did know that it had some sort of safety mechanism. As far as caliber goes I am looking for a 9mm. I want this pistol for the range and when I go backpacking. It would be great to be accurate when an angry rattle snake comes along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by super64 View Post
    I need an external manual safety just for safety reasons. I wasn't sure if the glock had an external safety but I did know that it had some sort of safety mechanism. As far as caliber goes I am looking for a 9mm. I want this pistol for the range and when I go backpacking. It would be great to be accurate when an angry rattle snake comes along.
    Oooooooooooookay. You say you've shot a Glock pistol, but don't know if it has a manual safety?

    Anyway, most Berettas and some of the HK variants have a manual safety. Don't get a Glock. An NRA Basic Pistol course would seem to be in order, though.

    9mm is a fine range gun, but snakes are best (a) simply avoided and not antagonized, or (b) dispatched with a simple revolver with a shotshell load. If you're not experienced with handguns (and your posts imply you aren't) the idea of hitting a swiftly-moving target that is 1" across with a solid bullet that is .36" across, while under stress, seems a bit...optimistic.
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    does the USP H&K have a manual safety

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    The HK USP does have a manual safety, if money is no object that’s not a bad choice, I personally wouldn’t get a 9mm, I would get a .40 cal but that’s just me. While hitting a snake is a bit optimistic scaring the crap out if it is a distinct possibility and that can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on the snake. Plenty of range time is in order with any shooter new or old and for a new shooter an NRA class is highly recommended. My 2 cents.

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    I haven't been around handguns for too long but I must admit that i can shoot pretty well with them. I am renting a H&K 9mm this weekend and if I like it I am getting one.

    thanks

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    I've owned all three. I prefer HK, then Beretta, Glock last. I too do not like handguns without at least a manual decocker on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by super64 View Post
    ...It would be great to be accurate when an angry rattle snake comes along.
    If I were only that good a shooter.. hehe
    Seriously though, for that kind of moving target...
    2-3 rounds from a Taurus Judge with .410 shells..
    Probably would pepper a snake pretty well.

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    I'd recommend taking a basic handgun course and after you've gone through it, rent out as many guns as you can to study and shoot them.

    After that you'll have a round knowledge of the type of gun that best fits your needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlockamaniaŽ View Post
    I'd recommend taking a basic handgun course and after you've gone through it, rent out as many guns as you can to study and shoot them.

    After that you'll have a round knowledge of the type of gun that best fits your needs.
    Thats a good Idea

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