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    Question Home Defense ???

    Does anybody out there use a AR for Home Defense?? I am thinking about getting a 9mm one for home defense and down at the indoor range I go to. Having 30 rounds would be real nice in the middle of the night if the hit fan.

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    For home defense I would take my shotgun, hands down.

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    I'll agree with gunut on this one. IMO a pump action shotgun is the ultimate inside the home defensive arm.

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    Shotgun all the way. Nothing is more intimidating than hearing someone pump that first round into the chamber, espically in the dead of night when it's quiet

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    +1 for the shotgun... And if that doesn't work the 357mag on the nighstand should finish the job..

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    I'm not so sure racking a pump-action shotgun would scare the bejejus out of an intruder with the gonads to break into an occupied residence at night, but most people would agree that an 18- or 20-inch barrel shotgun is an excellent choice for home defense.

    If you want a 9mm carbine, I suggest the Beretta CX-9, especially if you have a Beretta 92 handgun, as they use the same magazines. It's shorter than an AR-15 carbine with the stock collapsed, so it would be easier to manuever indoors. You can put enough rails on it to hang all the lights, NV, lasers, etc. that you want. They also make it in .40 S&W and .45 ACP.

    Here's a link to compare overall lengths. Top to bottom are my 20-inch Mossberg 590A1, Beretta CX-9, AR-15 w/ 16-inch barrel and the stock collapsed, and AR-15 SBR with an 11.5-inch barrel and ACE stock. The AR-15 SBR and the Beretta CX-9 are about the same overall length.



    If you want to see what to expect from 9mm and .223 wall penetration when shooting indoors, check here: http://www.theboxotruth.com/

    Good shooting!

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    Hey rfawcs thanks for all the good info. I am going up and check it out now.

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    I think, especially in the coming times, using an AR for home defense is going to cause more petty issues than it is worth. A guy I used to work with used his one time to defend against a guy who got into his home and it took him several months and a lot of money to get the AR back from the ATF even though he didn't even hit the guy. Once my shotgun comes that will be my home defense weapon.

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    YEP! A shotgun is my first choice too but I was just wondering if anybody did use one and what they thought the advantage might be. Guess nobody here uses one.

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    I live in an apartment, so overpenetration is a big consideration for me.. thus I leans towards the shotty - but you can even overpenatrate drywall with 00 buck.

    Now if and when I live in the woods, AR all the way. But in any setting with other innocents anywhere nearby, pistol or shotgun, IMO.

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    +1 for A shotgun.

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    Smile I hope you don't find an assailant that knows Judo!

    Most home defense are at close distance...a guy that knows Judo will take your shotgun away from you...and I hope that you know where everybody that lives in the house is...BEFORE you fire your shotgun!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&W Tiger View Post
    Most home defense are at close distance...a guy that knows Judo will take your shotgun away from you...and I hope that you know where everybody that lives in the house is...BEFORE you fire your shotgun!!!
    Well, you could say the same for a handgun, too. And an AR.

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    Someday I want an M-4 carbine with a short barreled, stockless shotgun slung under the barrel. I'm sure I will have some hoops to jump through to get it, but it would be the best of both worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&W Tiger View Post
    Most home defense are at close distance...a guy that knows Judo will take your shotgun away from you...and I hope that you know where everybody that lives in the house is...BEFORE you fire your shotgun!!!

    He dang well better move in a flash because I am shooting on site. There will be no put'em up or freeze, as I will shoot on site. He better be real good to out do a bullet.

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    I got a chance to shoot the gun in question the other day (select fire).

    I was not very impressed. In single shot it almost seemed to recoil more than .223, but it is more controllable than .223 in full-auto. I would still say you should just go for a shotgun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&W Tiger View Post
    Most home defense are at close distance...a guy that knows Judo will take your shotgun away from you...and I hope that you know where everybody that lives in the house is...BEFORE you fire your shotgun!!!
    The same is possibly true of any weapon. What would you suggest would be a better firearm to defend against "Judo"

    Personally When defending my home and family against a band of ninjas I can't think of anything better than a 12ga or two and a couple cases of #4 buck......

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwkimber45 View Post
    The same is possibly true of any weapon. What would you suggest would be a better firearm to defend against "Judo"

    Personally When defending my home and family against a band of ninjas I can't think of anything better than a 12ga or two and a couple cases of #4 buck......
    +1

    I'd use #1 Buck myself though.

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    Smile

    Quote Originally Posted by jwkimber45 View Post
    The same is possibly true of any weapon. What would you suggest would be a better firearm to defend against "Judo"

    Personally When defending my home and family against a band of ninjas I can't think of anything better than a 12ga or two and a couple cases of #4 buck......
    Ja,Ja...I don't forsee my home being attacked by a bunch of ninjas if that happen I will learn how to pray fast!!!

    My point is that is easier to take a shotgun from someone than a revolver.

    I have NOT seen any ninjas around latetly!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&W Tiger View Post
    I have NOT seen any ninjas around latetly!!!
    Stay up all night some night and sit in your living room with just a flashlight till ya hear a noise then shine the flashlight at the noise and ...wa la..........................

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