I don't know which model you're referring to but I'm guessing it's a 16" carbine. Probably the CAR A4. You could take a look at Bushmaster's new "O.R.C"(optics ready carbine) as it has a considerably lower MSRP than S&W's M&P15T and then spend that extra money on what you want to add.
http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/w...vmf16m4orc.asp
Or you could go with the S&W M&15T and get it all in the package.

As for selling the pistols, only you can answer that one. I personally think you should round out your stable. Replace those two plastic bottom feeders with another long arm.
Your P99's fill the same niche after all. But that's entirely your call. If you think you'll regret it then maybe you should wait.

The good thing about the AR15 is that magazines and ammunition are both more abundant and considerably cheaper than those for your FN. The AR15 is also more accurate and powerful. It's a good-handling, light recoiling rifle. It's a good rifle to hone your rifle skills with.

Don't loose the handguns.

Be patient, and wait.



When you buy the AR, you'll want to add all those little extras extras, like night sites and bullets. Then you'll want to go out and shoot it. You'll spend all your time and money on the new gun.

Next thing you know, you'll be bankrupt, divorced, and your son will be 21, wondering what happened to his dad? And even worse, we'll all be wandering around the forum, wondering where did Shipwreck go?

Someone will finally dig you out of dumpster, clutching your AR in one hand and the remains of your ratty old P99 in the other. You'll be rambling on and on about how you shouldn't have sold the USPc and the Glock.

The AR isn't going away. But life with family and forum might.

Wait, save, buy when you can afford it.

WM

Night sights? That's what the larger aperture is for.

I take it I must be the only AR15 owner who takes the minimalist. All I need are magazines and ammunition.

Don't sell the handguns; you'll regret it later. Put 20, 30, 40 bucks a payday away -whatever you can afford- and wait until you have enough saved up.

Whichever brand you decide on, get the basic flat-top receiver model. I would spring for a two-stage trigger if you want when you buy it, but -all- other do-dads (even the trigger) can be added later.

You can put whatever sight/optic you want on it, even a removable carry handle. Don't worry about the front sight post; almost all red-dots will co-witness and with a telescopic sight the front sight will blur out. When shooting at paper targets, you'll probably be surprised at accurate you can be with plain ol' iron sights.

That's my 2 cents, anyway.

Well, it is true - I'd want another Eotech, and a front grip - I'm not sure... I may wait... Hmmm....

I could live w/ selling the USPc, but don't really wanna sell the Glock. And, even with 6 mags, I'd need more $ to buy an AR.

This is all I'll say about this thread............... http://www.handgunforum.net/showthre...6801#post56801

Originally Posted by scooter

This is all I'll say about this thread............... http://www.handgunforum.net/showthre...6801#post56801

I say you get an AK. Cheaper to buy and feed and much more fun to shoot!

Originally Posted by scooter

This is all I'll say about this thread............... http://www.handgunforum.net/showthre...6801#post56801

The most expensive thing involving my AR15's was putting the ammunition through them. And they're mostly reloads. But I'm not like you two. I actually prefer the stock set-up. That's the great thing about them. So many options.

More projects for the distant future though:

M16A2 clone with a proper profile barrel. Not those insanely nose-heavy manufacturing-shortcut HBAR's that every 20" AR has these days.

AR-10 with a quality 3-9x and Harris bipod.

Build an AR pistol. I'd have mine with an A1 upper, free-floated barrel and a Hogue overmolded rubber grip.

And don't forget those C-Beta magazines. One of these days I need to get my hands on one.

Actually, maybe Scooter is right. Stay away for now.

Originally Posted by Shipwreck

Well, it is true - I'd want another Eotech, and a front grip - I'm not sure... I may wait... Hmmm....

I could live w/ selling the USPc, but don't really wanna sell the Glock. And, even with 6 mags, I'd need more $ to buy an AR.

You could buy a lower or upper for now. That's certainly an option.

Originally Posted by -gunut-

I say you get an AK. Cheaper to buy and feed and much more fun to shoot!

Kalashnikovs are very fun to shoot and are very good value. An AR can be just as cheap to feed with the same brand ammunition(Wolf). Contrary to what some may say, AR15 extractors aren't that weak. It's a matter of taste. If you can you should get both but given the choices I go with the AR15.

Originally Posted by Revolver

The good thing about the AR15 is that magazines and ammunition are both more abundant and considerably cheaper than those for your FN. The AR15 is also more accurate and powerful. It's a good-handling, light recoiling rifle. It's a good rifle to hone your rifle skills with.

I put about 200rds through mine yesterday. I also let a buddy of mine shoot it as well, he had never shot an AR before. After about 3rds, he was smiling from ear to ear and I had almost pull it away from him to get it back...

You can also build it, go ahead and buy a receiver...or a complete lower. Then get an upper and configure it the way you want it.

You better hurry... Don't forget who's in charge now... Remember! They don't like AR15's!

I just ordered another RRA receiver yesterday for my next build.

Sell your Glock?
Are you out of your MIND?!?



Sell the UPSc(rap) (or whatever it is ) and use that money to get either an AR upper or lower; then save your pennies for the other half. If you have a gun closet/junk drawer/footlocker/whatever, then I'd look through it and see if you have anything you haven't used in quite a while that you could sell to hurry the saving along. Scopes, mags/holsters/accessories for guns that you no longer own, reloading gear, whatever.

I've decided to save my pennies and hold off on that target 22. I'll wait and see what I have by the end of the year, and then decide what to sell.

As for the Glock - I love my P99s more. But I do want some variety in my guns. The main thing stopping me from selling the Glock is that its the only gun I have w/ 17 round mags, and I have 6 of them (some haven't even been used but 1x).

It is possible that I will buy it in 2 parts, we'll see. I really like that S&W version, and buying all the pieces separate in that configuration will cost about the same. We'll see.

I've got the fever too. As much as I like handguns, I've decided to get by with what I've got and go for an AR as the next purchase. I want an RRA AR, so the plan is to save up and buy a complete lower, then save up and buy a complete upper. Then save up again for an Aimpoint or Eotech, front grip, and all the other goodies. While that is going on, I'll stock up on 30 round mags and ammo when I see good prices on them.

It will take a while, but I won't sell anything (I sold a bunch of guns when I first moved out of my house when I was 19 to fund the move and have always regretted it) and the wife won't kill me for spending a huge wad of cash all at once. Little purchases are easier to get under the radar.

Originally Posted by Shipwreck

It is possible that I will buy it in 2 parts, we'll see. I really like that S&W version, and buying all the pieces separate in that configuration will cost about the same. We'll see.

Don't buy it in parts...money in the bank is better than half a gun.

Instead of buying it in parts over time, buy it in parts, but all at once. Why buy the lower half now, and the upper half 4 months later. Just wait, and buy bother halves at the same time...

By buying the lower half right away, you sorta "lock" yourself in...

If that is what you want...then go for it...I personally do not like to be "locked" in. Now buying the gun all at once...that could be considered an impulse buy...and I fully support those.

Originally Posted by -gunut-

I say you get an AK. Cheaper to buy and feed and much more fun to shoot!

I've tried an AK and am not a big fan. I prefer an AR.

Here are 2 pics I found with sights in the eotech window. I don't really like this. I definetly want the front and back folding sights.


THis is a guy's AR from another site - This is w/ just the front sight showing and the rear folded down.




And this is with the rear up AND the eotech:

Originally Posted by Shipwreck

I've tried an AK and am not a big fan. I prefer an AR.

Here are 2 pics I found with sights in the eotech window. I don't really like this. I definetly want the front and back folding sights.


THis is a guy's AR from another site - This is w/ just the front sight showing and the rear folded down.




And this is with the rear up AND the eotech:

Called CO-witnessing the sights, a military thing mostly but its not bad when you get used to it.

Originally Posted by scooter

Called CO-witnessing the sights, a military thing mostly but its not bad when you get used to it.

Yea, I know what it is. But, with folding sights, I can still use the sights when I want - I just don't want them in the way when I am using the eotech. If the eotech failed, then I could bring them back up.

Originally Posted by Shipwreck

Yea, I know what it is. But, with folding sights, I can still use the sights when I want - I just don't want them in the way when I am using the eotech. If the eotech failed, then I could bring them back up.

I keep mine seperate too, I have the flat top upper but put the Bushnell on the carry handle and can still use the peeps under it without interference, Ya just gotta do whats right for you

But the folding sights aren't as durable. I really don't see how the front sight gets in the way at all. Looks to me like it provides a better sight picture. What equipment is necessary to make the Eotech co-witness? I assume it's one of those mounts that run from the carrying handle and hang over the handguards.

I never got into the AR type weapons, but I actually found myself making googly eyes at this one yesterday. Not really an AR I guess, but it is a neat little thing!

Originally Posted by Shipwreck

I really like that S&W version

If I were you I would skip on the S$W. You should take a look at DPMS rifles. They are extremely good quality rifles at about the lowest price around. My Sgt. has an issued Colt M4 and just got one of the DPMS. He says he was surprised how nice it was. Quality easily = to that of his Colt. They offer many variations to suite the shooter.



http://www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/

Originally Posted by Revolver

But the folding sights aren't as durable. I really don't see how the front sight gets in the way at all. Looks to me like it provides a better sight picture. What equipment is necessary to make the Eotech co-witness? I assume it's one of those mounts that run from the carrying handle and hang over the handguards.

Rock River Arms makes a mount called the EOTech Dominator 2 Mount, which is what I have on my AR. The Dominator 2 Mount includes the rear sight and makes for perfect co-witness when adding the EOTech, which is what I want.

He's a picture of mine with the EOTech Dominator 2 Mount already mounted on the top receiver rail. All I need now is the EOTech to go on it. Also, The mount is elevated just high enough where it puts the EOTech dot right on top of the front site post, which again...is where I want it.