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    Rifle or shotgun as HD?

    Ok, I feel like being a little devil and starting this arguement again because it always boils down to a Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 vs an AR15 as HD firearm. I choose my good old Mossberg 500.

    What do you guys choose?

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    For close range, like inside a house, nothing beats a 12ga pump or auto loaded with 00 or 000 buck shot. Of course this is just my opinion.

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    remington 1100, auto loader, with remington 00 buck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viper31373
    remington 1100, auto loader, with remington 00 buck.

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    Remington 870 with #4 Buck

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    Shotgun only


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    I own a Mossberg 500 pistol grip with a fold able stock. I keep it loaded with 00 buck and then stagger it with A hollow point slug or sabot.


    I also have a Remington 870 that I keep bird shot in for the wifey.

    There is nothing like a 12 gauge to get up close and personal with an intruder.

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    Winchester Defender 1300 12 GA. 3" Mag 000/00 Buck. But I live alone.
    Kahr P40 w/Winchester Ranger 155 Gr. JHP also, since this is a handgun forum.

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    Benelli Super Nova 12 ga. with a mix of non-lethals (first round only... if you keep coming after that you deserve whatever you get) and bird shot. Little long in the barrel, but it gets the job done.

    I will still own a Remington 870 one day. 18" barrel this time.

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    Heh, an old poll from banned member rears its head!

    I think either is fine. Shotguns with smaller buckshot have a little less wall penetration than some rifle rounds. But something like an M4gery or Mini-14 is easier to shoot well, especially for people who don't like heavy recoil. .223 with light JHPs has less wall penetration than some handgun rounds, for those concerned about that.

    Since I sold my M4gery, I will likely buy an 18" barrel for the 870 when I get home. The old bird gun is perfectly adequate for defense when stoked with buckshot.
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    a 12g shotgun for HD beats anything,it doesnt matter if the intruder is 60feet or 30 inches away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormbringerr View Post
    a 12g shotgun for HD beats anything,it doesnt matter if the intruder is 60feet or 30 inches away.
    It's really shooter-dependent. Many people do better with a short rifle that kicks less.
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    870 12 Gg all the way. Sighted Slug Barrel. 00 Buck. I'd prefer #1 Buck, but I can't find it anywhere!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    Heh, an old poll from banned member rears its head!
    I was away for awhile, what was he banned for?

    For home defense, I want one of these new KEL-TEC's!

    Shown Above an FN FAL for comparison.


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    I don't care for bullpups. The LOP is always too long to shoot from a squared-up, modern rifle-fighting stance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    It's really shooter-dependent. Many people do better with a short rifle that kicks less.
    a 20 gauge doesn't kick that much,and you only have to point and shoot.cant get much simpler.

    i noticed no one voted for rifle.

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    Benelli M4, with EOtech Sight on top, loaded with 00 Slug 00 Slug 00 Slug Sabot sabot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    I don't care for bullpups. The LOP is always too long to shoot from a squared-up, modern rifle-fighting stance.
    LOP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaskan_Viking View Post
    LOP?
    Length of pull, e.g., the distance from buttplate to trigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stormbringerr View Post
    i noticed no one voted for rifle.
    I'll vote rifle. I don't have a shotgun. However, in a HD situation, I think it all depends on what time it happened. If someone comes busting down my door during the day, they they will have to deal with my pistol because that's what I have easy access to. I won't have time to run upstairs and get a long gun. However, if someone comes a knockin' at night and choses to proceed with their Darwin Award candidacy while the alarm is going off, then they will be looking at the business end of the AR, which due to the layout of my house, will work just fine in a HD situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormbringerr View Post
    a 20 gauge doesn't kick that much,and you only have to point and shoot.cant get much simpler.
    A 20 gauge kicks a hell of a lot harder than a .223.

    You're simply wrong about pointing and shooting. At in-house distances, a shotgun needs to be aimed almost as carefully as a rifle, since the pattern doesn't open much at close range.

    i noticed no one voted for rifle.
    Probably because shotguns are traditional in the HD role. But as rifles like .223s become more common among police, they will trickle into the HD market. .223 rifles are pretty rapidly displacing shotguns in many police roles.

    Anyway, either will serve. It's the Indian, not the arrow. I didn't vote.
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    this is what i prefer

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    lol a little big

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent 47 View Post
    lol a little big
    Ya think?

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    thats only your opinion i think most of the time that you are simply wrong.go look at your simply wrong post about the RIA 1911s

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