Fixed the Llama

....Finally. I got a chance to bust out the dremel and some polishing compound and polished the snot out of the touching parts on the slide and slide release. When we bought this gun (Llama IIIa) for my wife (it was the only one she liked at the shop) I was a little hesitant. It had a few rust spots, was older than dirt and had not been taken care of very well. The slide release would lock the slide to the rear just fine, but it took both hands and an abnormal amount of force to actually release the slide. It was cheap, and I thought it was a good learning gun for my wife, especially since it is a smaller copy of a 1911 in .380acp so we got it. We ran over 100 rounds of WWB through it at the range. We had to slingshot the slide to load it but I've heard from some instructors that it is the best way anyway. The only problem she had was with the smallish sights and our rather poorly lit indoor range, I later took a jewlers file to the front sight and squared it up (it was just a semi circle bump) I then painted it black and added a white dot to the front sight and two on the either side of the rear sights. As for function it was great, except 2 out of 10 magazines it would eject the last live round in the mag and lock the slide back. I have never seen this before, has anyone else had this problem. She was not limp wristing it and neither was I. This is the only gun that my wife is comfortable with (I've tried everything from revolvers to Glocks and everything in between) so I'm trying to make it work for her. She has it out at night when I'm either underway or on overnight duty. I am pretty proud of myself for taking this gun to were it is now, but I really need to work on that last live round eject problem. Is the mag spring too strong? Maybe the feed lips are a little stretched out from Lord knows how many rounds have passed through it. I really can't get parts for it and a spare mag is pretty hard to come by as well, I think they stopped making these in the 70's. Thanks

I think you probably nailed it with the feed lips comment. It's probably bowing outward at the front of the lips, but you should also closely check the top/rear edge of the mag, where the feed lips meet the back edge/spine, and make sure there are no visible cracks. If so, it's time for a new mag, no matter the cost.

If you only have one mag, I'm VERY hesitant to suggest taking any action to "fix" the mag, as it could make it worse or damage it, leaving it completely unusable. Periodically check with Gun Parts Corp to see if they get any mags for it, and if they do, buy a couple. Magazines really are the heart of an autoloader; the best gun in the world is only as good as the mags used to feed it.

Have you had your wife hold a medium-frame (Cheetah-size) Beretta DA/SA .380 or .32 to check the size/feel? I forget the model number(s), but they have made them in single-column versions in the past, and they are relatively slim.

Magazines for both old model (narrow base) and newer (wide base) are readily available in triple-K brand. I have had very good luck with these in my Llama .380s, as have others. $25 from Gunclips.com and others.

Glad your wife likes her Llama. I have 6 of those, but my wife can't rack the slide on any of them.

I love the Llama pistols. They are the red-haired step children of the gun world. If you tweak them like you did, they will be fun, accurate and will last a lifetime or more.

Parts aren't that hard to come by. I actually stock and sell most parts for the Llama line except for magazines and recoil springs. The full size Llamas use the standard 1911 springs. As mentioned, Triple K sells the mags as does ammoclips.com. You can get some parts and recoil springs for the .380 at Numrich. I am looking for recoil springs for my Llama .22 if anybody knows where I can get some. Your wife should have fun at the range with her Llama and be encouraged to carry it once it is 100%. The last round issue is probably the feed lips on the magazine. If you load just one round into the magazine and simulate it being stripped you may be able to see where it is out of spec. If you need any parts just send me a message.

YOu can also get different grips on ebay or gunbroker. Your wife may enjoy picking out some grips... tell her it's like shoes! You can never have too many.

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I love the Llama pistols. They are the red-haired step children of the gun world. If you tweak them like you did, they will be fun, accurate and will last a lifetime or more.

Parts aren't that hard to come by. I actually stock and sell most parts for the Llama line except for magazines and recoil springs. The full size Llamas use the standard 1911 springs. As mentioned, Triple K sells the mags as does ammoclips.com. You can get some parts and recoil springs for the .380 at Numrich. I am looking for recoil springs for my Llama .22 if anybody knows where I can get some. Your wife should have fun at the range with her Llama and be encouraged to carry it once it is 100%. The last round issue is probably the feed lips on the magazine. If you load just one round into the magazine and simulate it being stripped you may be able to see where it is out of spec. If you need any parts just send me a message.
I am searching for walnut handgrips and barrel for this llama .380. I have not found any other markings. Any information would be appreciated.

YOu can also get different grips on ebay or gunbroker. Your wife may enjoy picking out some grips... tell her it's like shoes! You can never have too many.

http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o...amaall6-1R.jpg

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I am searching for walnut grips with llama medallion, also looking or barrel with link for this llama .380.

Hi guys new member. I have just purchased a very nice Llama Micro Max .380. I have gone to the range this past week and shot very good groups. To my point. As long as I could keep the magazine in it on recoil or the slide reloading. Am I mistakenly hitting the release button or is their a malfunction. Also I can pull the magazine out rather easily. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Do you have to push the mag release to pull the mag out?
Is it a factory Llama mag?
Can you remove the mag release (just like a 1911) to see if someone filed on it for
some reason?
If you have pics of the mag and/or mag release maybe we can figure this out for you.

No I do not have to push the mag release, just pull down on it. It does appear to be a factory mag. The gun does break down just like a 1911. I will look at the mag release. Thanks!

A factory Llama mag will have "Made in Spain" stamped on the bottom with some grooves near the tip. If it is an after market mag, the Micro Max does accept the older models but they aren't as "tight". MicroMax mags are sometimes "too big" for the older Llamas and get stuck on the way in. It could be a Llama factory mag from the earlier version which could also be not as tight as a factory Micro Max mag. Just some random thoughts....

Most likely, the magazine catch is worn or broken.
It's also possible that the magazine's catch-slot is worn, bent, or peened.

You should not be able to remove the magazine without actuating the magazine catch.

Thanks guys you all make sense. I will check into all of this. And again sorry for the double post.

Iam having the same problem with my 380 llama what did you do to fix it?And my slide dosent lock back when empty is it suppose to if so any ideas on how to fix it?

Does anyone know where i can find a trigger and sheer (spelled wrong) pin for a LLama mini max 45

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Does anyone know where i can find a trigger and sheer (spelled wrong) pin for a LLama mini max 45

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both are on this list and in stock

Numrich Gun Parts Corp. - The World's Largest Supplier of Firearms Parts and Accessories

This parts package has been SOLD:smt082


Llama IXA 45 acp parts package

Hi,

I recently joined this forum because it is one of a few that has talked about the Llama IXA 45 acp.
I inherited a weapons collection which consist of several hand guns, rifles and shotguns. Also a parts bank that needs cataloged!
I do have parts to a Llama IXA 45 acp already cataloged, cleaned, oiled, bagged seperately and ready to use. All parts are in excellent condition.
This is a great parts pakage for rebuilding, replacing or repairing Llama IX series.

The package contents:

-ALL screws,retaining pins and springs

-trigger assembly

-grip safety assembly

-rear sight assembly

-recoil spring

-recoil spring bushing

-recoil spring retaining tube

-barrel bushing

-plunger assembly

-firing pin assembly

-hammer assembly

-mainspring housing assembly

-cartridge assembly group

-disconnect assembly with sear pin

-extractor



Also included in package:

-R/L Original Walnut wood pistol grips with screws and Llama insignia on both grips.

-2-original magazines with "MADE IN SPAIN" stamp on the bottom.
(I can supply phoitos to prove authenticity)

***MAIN FRAME,SLIDE,SLIDE LOCK AND BARREL- NOT INCLUDED


This is a PACKAGE DEAL ONLY and I am asking - $140.00 or best offer.
Serious interested individuals can contact me by email: junkyrddawg@msn.com


Thank you