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    Tasers

    I am curious about what everyone's thoughts are on "non-lethal" tasers available now? Like them, hate them, think it is a really bad idea?

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    They should be banned like firearms. Only criminals should own them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnoisaw View Post
    They should be banned like firearms. Only criminals should own them.
    +1 with toonoisy
    Actually I think they have a place in self defense (like in cases where you cant carry firearms etc,) but I would not recommend them as a PRIMARY self defense tool. Maybe a worthwhile B/U as a last resort?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuckLead View Post
    I am curious about what everyone's thoughts are on "non-lethal" tasers available now? Like them, hate them, think it is a really bad idea?
    "non-lethal" we have 'lethal' ones available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooter View Post
    +1 with toonoisy
    Actually I think they have a place in self defense (like in cases where you cant carry firearms etc,) but I would not recommend them as a PRIMARY self defense tool. Maybe a worthwhile B/U as a last resort?
    I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. P View Post
    "non-lethal" we have 'lethal' ones available?
    I believe they are being limited to 50,000 volts (DC). Why not double the capacitor in them or just make them AC instead of DC. 50,000 AC volts would cook ya like a microwave.

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    I have no problem w/ em. Since my wife dislikes guns, I'd buy her one to have if she were interested - But the MAIN Taser brand costs around $1k for one of those suckers...

    I see times on the police shows where they are needed. But, I will admit that quite often I also see the police rely on it at about the same level as pepperspray. Its used too quickly sometimes.

    Granted - if they didn't use it, and some scenarios got out of hand afterwards and the police officer/officers would have gotten a bit bruised up - then maybe one could argue that stopping these minor physical resistances by the arrestee by using the Taser was a good idea. But, hindsight is 20/20 as well.

    I do think they are used a bit too often, but don't wanna see it disappear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
    I have no problem w/ em. Since my wife dislikes guns, I'd buy her one to have if she were interested - But the MAIN Taser brand costs around $1k for one of those suckers...
    Some of the ones put out by Taser International are around $300 - $350. It's a little bigger than the $1k version, but just as good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. P View Post
    "non-lethal" we have 'lethal' ones available?
    Yes, all of them. I put "non-lethal" in quotes when talking about tasers because they aren't non-lethal like a lot of people seem to think. It makes people think there is no possible way they can kill someone with a taser (and I hear the "why would you carry a gun when non-lethal means are available?" question a lot) when it is still possible to kill someone with a taser.

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    Oh, I didn't know that. Wow. I still doubt I could get her to be interested in 1. She's from china - different culture. No one there is allowed such things - so I guess the interest never developed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
    Oh, I didn't know that. Wow. I still doubt I could get her to be interested in 1. She's from china - different culture. No one there is allowed such things - so I guess the interest never developed...
    If she ever starts to show any interest I can tell her all about them. LOL! Seriously, though, it would be cool to get her some protection and I'd tell her everything I know about them.

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    Ok, thanks. Unfortunately, she will never be interested in that kinda stuff unless something bad happens to us... Sad....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
    Ok, thanks. Unfortunately, she will never be interested in that kinda stuff unless something bad happens to us... Sad....
    Well, in that case, I hope she never gets interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuckLead View Post
    Well, in that case, I hope she never gets interested.

    Yes, me too... Me too....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuckLead View Post
    Yes, all of them. I put "non-lethal" in quotes when talking about tasers because they aren't non-lethal like a lot of people seem to think. It makes people think there is no possible way they can kill someone with a taser (and I hear the "why would you carry a gun when non-lethal means are available?" question a lot) when it is still possible to kill someone with a taser.
    Educate them then, H2O is lethal as well ya know? Tell em that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuckLead View Post
    Yes, all of them. I put "non-lethal" in quotes when talking about tasers because they aren't non-lethal like a lot of people seem to think. It makes people think there is no possible way they can kill someone with a taser (and I hear the "why would you carry a gun when non-lethal means are available?" question a lot) when it is still possible to kill someone with a taser.
    They probably have, “Star Trek” on their brains. “Set tasers to kill Spock.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. P View Post
    Educate them then, H2O is lethal as well ya know? Tell em that.
    Once the starts, my customers are usually pretty much aware that I am a firm believer that the term "non-lethal" applies to nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnoisaw View Post
    They probably have, “Star Trek” on their brains. “Set tasers to kill Spock.”
    No, they're just a little dim. I can't tell you the amount of times customers have been upset that the display taser isn't live when they tried to tase a friend or one of the sales people to "see if it works."

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    Tasers like all "less-than-lethal" equipment is to only be used while you are supported by others using "lethal force"(others that are armed) and the situation presents itself. The problem with "less-than-lethal" devices is that they can fail to stop or even affect the aggressor. They are less reliable than more potentially "lethal" strategies for obvious reasons and shouldn't be relied on one as primary defense.

    Ship, you ever tried getting her involved in the "sporting" aspect of shooting? Maybe a nice target .22lr like the Ruger Mark series? Maybe she's not comfortable on the "defensive" aspect? Just an idea.
    Last edited by Revolver; 01-12-2007 at 12:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolver View Post

    Ship, you ever tried getting her involved in the "sporting" aspect of shooting? Maybe a nice target .22lr like the Ruger Mark series? Maybe she's not comfortable on the "defensive" aspect? Just an idea.
    Well, I am planning on getting a target 22 soon. But, I don't know if I can drag her to the range again. Besides, she can't go now while she is pregnant.

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