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      Quote Originally Posted by Revolver View Post
      Your closet plan is more than sufficient. If your kid is going to be breaking down doors, you have a lot more problems on your hands than the way that your firearms are locked up. Could you really clarrify on that scenario?

      You all know there's no such thing as an impenetrable safe, right?

      Safes are only to help keep honest people honest. I watched a demonstration once of a guy that opened 5 combo lock safes(5 different manufacturers and lock types) in less than 10 minutes,If they want whats in your safe they WILL get it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Revolver View Post
      Your closet plan is more than sufficient. If your kid is going to be breaking down doors, you have a lot more problems on your hands than the way that your firearms are locked up. Could you really clarrify on that scenario?

      You all know there's no such thing as an impenetrable safe, right?
      I work as a probation officer and deal with criminals each and everyday. SO, I already have that mindset - I believe in covering my butt as much as possible. And, I am faily paranoid because of it. I can't afford to make a mistake and have the child take a gun to show others or bring it to school or whatever. If I get a criminal charge for such a thing, I loose my job.

      Before becoming a probation officer, I worked loss prevention years ago, and caught hundreds of shoplifters. I have had to call many, many parents to tell them I had their child. Some parents would even argue with me on the phone - telling me that I must be mistaken because their kid couldn't have done such a thing.

      I learned a long time ago that U can be the best parent in the world - but when that kid is with friends or leaves the house, they are still capable of anything. Scientific studies have also shown that due to changes in the brain in the teen years, teenagers doin't always think the same as a rational adult. So when U ask them "why did U do that," and they answer "I don't know," quite often they DO NOT know why they did a stupid thing or made a stupid decision.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
      I learned a long time ago that U can be the best parent in the world - but when that kid is with friends or leaves the house, they are still capable of anything. Scientific studies have also shown that due to changes in the brain in the teen years, teenagers doin't always think the same as a rational adult. So when U ask them "why did U do that," and they answer "I don't know," quite often they DO NOT know why they did a stupid thing or made a stupid decision.
      You must work exculsively with the emotionally and mentally retarded. According to what is known in the field of developmental psychology, most adolescents reach the final stage of intellectual development at age 12, some sooner. If they truly did not know they did something wrong they are either psychopaths or have inept parents. In most cases they are simply lying. In the first case, they need serious therapy. However for the latter two, they need discipline.
      I would hope that most of us weren't psychopaths during our teen years. After all, I did have my own rifle in my own closet by the time I was a teenager.
      Last edited by Revolver; 12-01-2006 at 03:18 PM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
      Yea, I could do that - but I don't have a drill.
      How can you own a house and not have a drill?

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      Sorry - no drill... I do not like power tools

      And as for the other stuff... I just wanted help with the hinge - not a "discussion" of teen angst, etc

      Anyway - I went to that place and ordered my hinges w/ non removable pins. WIll have them soon. Then I'll buy a combination doorknob

      Thanks everyone...

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      I was just trying to say that you don't need to sell away half your collection when your original plan with the improved hinges and lock would be enough.

      You don't even have a cordless drill? Now that's just not right.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Revolver View Post
      I was just trying to say that you don't need to sell away half your collection when your original plan with the improved hinges and lock would be enough.

      You don't even have a cordless drill? Now that's just not right.
      Yes, thanks. I think the combo lock and special hinge is just as goo as a safe. And, I have a lot of room for my ammo, and I need not fret as much over moisture issues. So, I am satisfied (once I get it all together)

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      Child = SAFE

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      Just install a couple of "dead pins" I remove a hinge screw from the door side, in the middle of the hinge-now install a three inch long wood screw about a #12-14, up to the beginning of the smooth part where the threads end. Take a hacksaw or bolt cutter&remove the very head of the screw, leaving a 1/2" stub sticking ouyt from the side of the hinge. Now either remove the hinge screw opposite the stub& or drill a hole for the stub to enter when the door is closed. I know it sounds complicated, but this is basicall what you find on all safe doors (Hinge Side) I am a Locksmith/Gun Dealer and I do these all the time.
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      Quote Originally Posted by billdeserthills View Post
      Just install a couple of "dead pins" I remove a hinge screw from the door side, in the middle of the hinge-now install a three inch long wood screw about a #12-14, up to the beginning of the smooth part where the threads end. Take a hacksaw or bolt cutter&remove the very head of the screw, leaving a 1/2" stub sticking ouyt from the side of the hinge. Now either remove the hinge screw opposite the stub& or drill a hole for the stub to enter when the door is closed. I know it sounds complicated, but this is basicall what you find on all safe doors (Hinge Side) I am a Locksmith/Gun Dealer and I do these all the time.
      Bill
      Now there ya go, since Ship doesn't want a safe ... that sounds like one of the better answers to the original question because it's inexpensive, fast, affective & pretty d@*n smart. That's a good idea and I'm gonna do that to my Workshop / Dog house door tomorrow ...
      Thanks for posting that, Bill

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      I mentioned it on another thread - I thought I had ended it up here. I have my problem solved too with non removable pins... )

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