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    Technically, this woman was breaking the law and deserved the ticket. Now, I may have a problem with the law in this case, but that’s how I see this issue. Had the bumper sticker been for the conservative candidate, someone would have complained and the same exact thing would have happened.

    The ironic thing is, due to the liberals trying to overturn election results they don’t like due to any minor infraction they can find, polling places have to resort to following the letter of the law to the Nth degree.

    Heck, I could argue that I was walking by her car on the way to the polling place but noticed her bumper sticker and thought the polls would be hostile to conservatives, so I decided not to vote. I was disenfranchised!

    Absurd? Yes, but it is the same argument that has been made in the past by you know who. This, I believe, is why this woman received a ticket.

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    The ticket is stupid. Does this mean that, if I live in Kansas, I can't drive to the polling place in my own car if it has a political sticker on it? Good thing I live in Arizona, because in 2004 I had a "W" sticker on my car and drove to the polling place to vote. I guess in Kansas, I would have had to walk! That's absurd, and quite possibly a First Amendment issue. I am glad the cop was "uncomfortable" issuing the ticket - while he was doing his duty, at least he could apparently see the idiocy of the whole thing, too. I hope the judge laughs this thing out of court.

    As for Democrats/liberals being the spawn of the devil, well, I know several liberals who are very fine people. My wife's cousin is a far-left liberal, yet she and I get along famously, and I thoroughly enjoy her company. Hell, if I were single and she wasn't gay, I'd date her. One night we sat up until dawn debating a dozen issues. In the end, neither of us changed our minds, but I concluded that while she is misled, she is also well-intentioned. Most liberals, I think, have good intentions. Many of them even want the same success for Americans than conservatives do - they just see a different way to achieve that goal. It's really too bad we talk past each other, rather than TO each other. So I don't hate liberals because they are liberals.

    One of the problems with getting all the news from talk radio, right-wing websites, and to a lesser degree Fox News, is that only one side of any issue is generally presented. One of the things I learned on the border mission was that conservative talk radio doesn't tell the whole story. When I deployed to Yuma, all the talk radio righties were screaming that we needed a wall all the way across the southern border, and that the Border Patrol wanted such a wall. It simply wasn't true. Not one BP agent I talked to thought such a wall was a cost-effective solution, and they all thought the money could be better spent on other methods of apprehending illegal aliens. This was basically the opposite of what I was hearing on Arizona talk radio, and also Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, FreeRepublic.com, World Net Daily, etc. So I am very skeptical about the information I get from these sources.

    I'm more of a "small L" libertarian than anything else, so I have disagreements with both major parties. I do think it will be easier to change the course of the Republican party back to one oriented toward personal responsibility, individual liberty, and successful foreign policy. That's why I always vote in GOP primaries, and really the only reason I am a registered Republican. Under the Bush administration, however, the GOP has gone 'round the bend with overly ambitious nation-building schemes and ridiculous spending on essentially liberal government programs. It'll be a long road back to Reagan/Goldwater conservatism.
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    You have to be pretty low to write a BS ticket like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham at Galco View Post
    It'll be a long road back to Reagan/Goldwater conservatism.
    +1

    Maybe one day...but I fear it will take quite a long time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by -gunut- View Post
    You have to be pretty low to write a BS ticket like that.
    Would you rather LEOs not enforce the law?

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    I am **SO** glad I don't live in a city.

    City folk seem so easily offended - by just about anything and everything that they disagree with, and then they want to sue someone because of it. Hell, city folk can't even hang their laundry out to dry in their own backyards anymore - afterall, it might offend someone!

    Nevermind that it saves energy and money; we just can't have Aunt Maggies' drawers flapping in the breeze...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeSkies View Post
    I am **SO** glad I don't live in a city.

    City folk seem so easily offended - by just about anything and everything that they disagree with, and then they want to sue someone because of it. Hell, city folk can't even hang their laundry out to dry in their own backyards anymore - afterall, it might offend someone!

    Nevermind that it saves energy and money; we just can't have Aunt Maggies' drawers flapping in the breeze...
    This is really about electioneering law, not city living or being offended. Every State has a similar law for ALL polling places within the State. Any country bumpkin could make the same call, I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -gunut- View Post
    You have to be pretty low to write a BS ticket like that.
    It doesn't sound like the cop had much choice or enjoyed writing it.
    I quote from the first post above
    ""They contacted all kinds of people in Kansas government about what to do. Apparently at one point, they were thinking about towing my car," Keiser said.

    The car wasn't towed, but an officer wrote her a ticket.

    "The officer seemed as confused as I did and a little uncomfortable," she said. "(The ticket) stated that my car is a campaign vehicle, which obviously took me aback."
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2400 View Post
    It doesn't sound like the cop had much choice or enjoyed writing it.
    I quote from the first post above
    ""They contacted all kinds of people in Kansas government about what to do. Apparently at one point, they were thinking about towing my car," Keiser said.

    The car wasn't towed, but an officer wrote her a ticket.

    "The officer seemed as confused as I did and a little uncomfortable," she said. "(The ticket) stated that my car is a campaign vehicle, which obviously took me aback."
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    You are correct.

    From first post….
    The law states that no one can campaign within 250 feet of a polling place.
    From the State of Kansas….

    SB 128 was approved by the Legislature … The measure changes the crime of “electioneering at polling places” to “electioneering.” It expands the law to include “attempting to persuade or influence” eligible voters to vote for or against a particular candidate.
    Valid Ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2400 View Post
    It doesn't sound like the cop had much choice or enjoyed writing it.
    I quote from the first post above
    ""They contacted all kinds of people in Kansas government about what to do. Apparently at one point, they were thinking about towing my car," Keiser said.

    The car wasn't towed, but an officer wrote her a ticket.

    "The officer seemed as confused as I did and a little uncomfortable," she said. "(The ticket) stated that my car is a campaign vehicle, which obviously took me aback."
    "
    Thats what I get for jumping the gun...

    Thanks!

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