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      flying with a gun?

      what are the rules as far as taking a gun on a plane? I remember there being a TSA regulation site or something explaining this I just can't find it.

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      There's TSA regs and individual airline regs.

      Here are the TSA regs:

      TSA: Traveling with Special Items

      What airline?

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      how does this look?





      This is how I set up my gun travel case. I'm looking for opinions from people who have flown with firearms. Does this look fine?

      the case is a Pelican 1095

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      Call or go online to the airline/airlines you are using to get their specific rules as some are in addition to TSA rules.....JJ

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      I read them and think I'm following them correctly. I'm asking if anyone who has flown with firearms or knows a lot about packaging them if they see anything wrong with how I have my case set up.

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      I have flown with firearms numerous times and simply put the rules keep changing.....if you have time download the rules for both airline and TSA and study them as most ticket agents and quite a few TSA agents do not know the rules very well........ your case looks fine, some airlines require ammo and mags to be packed in separate case from weapons and if case is set up for an padlock have two keys available for it and the case lock (if fitted) as well. Declare it and the ticket agent will request a TSA agent to come and examine it.......JJ

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      Re: flying with a gun?

      Quote Originally Posted by ponzer04 View Post
      I read them and think I'm following them correctly. I'm asking if anyone who has flown with firearms or knows a lot about packaging them if they see anything wrong with how I have my case set up.
      Yes, that's a per the rules set up and is good to go.....




      Zombie max?????

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      First off don't load those magazines.
      Second It may have a lock but I don't see one. A non-TSA lock.

      Get the ammo out of there and just throw it in your bag.

      Otherwise it looks good.

      AFS

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      Quote Originally Posted by AirForceShooter View Post
      First off don't load those magazines......

      Get the ammo out of there and just throw it in your bag.....

      AFS
      HUH?

      from the tsa site :

      "Firearm magazines and ammunition clips must be securely boxed or included within a hard-sided case containing an unloaded firearm."

      nothing says the magazine may not be loaded

      "Small arms ammunition, including ammunition not exceeding .75 caliber for a rifle or pistol and shotgun shells of any gauge, may be carried in the same hard-sided case as the firearm, as long as it follows the packing guidelines described above."

      so DO NOT THROW THE AMMO IN YOUR BAG!

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      thanks for the replies. and yes ZombieMax you never know when you will need them.

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      May seem silly to do so BUT Just a reminder ......None of these items in your carry on bag.....JJ

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      Quote Originally Posted by chessail77 View Post
      May seem silly to do so BUT Just a reminder ......None of these items in your carry on bag.....JJ
      so what your telling me is that I shouldn't try to just pass this off as a laptop?

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      Quote Originally Posted by TedDeBearFrmHell View Post
      HUH?

      from the tsa site :

      "Firearm magazines and ammunition clips must be securely boxed or included within a hard-sided case containing an unloaded firearm."

      nothing says the magazine may not be loaded

      "Small arms ammunition, including ammunition not exceeding .75 caliber for a rifle or pistol and shotgun shells of any gauge, may be carried in the same hard-sided case as the firearm, as long as it follows the packing guidelines described above."

      so DO NOT THROW THE AMMO IN YOUR BAG!


      Travelers must securely pack any ammunition in fiber (such as cardboard), wood or metal boxes or other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition.
      At one time there was a disclaimer stating that magazines did not count as "packaging" and that they needed to be empty. Not sure when/if this changed but probably still a good idea to keep the mags unloaded.

      Ammunition does not have to be in the same case as the gun and can be in the suit case itself, hence the words "May be carried in the same hard sided case"

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      Quote Originally Posted by VAMarine View Post
      At one time there was a disclaimer stating that magazines did not count as "packaging" and that they needed to be empty. Not sure when/if this changed but probably still a good idea to keep the mags unloaded.

      Ammunition does not have to be in the same case as the gun and can be in the suit case itself, hence the words "May be carried in the same hard sided case"
      a magazine is "other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition."

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      Nice case. Pelican products are great. All purpose brush, some kind of clp and any dissassembly tools you need (if any) might be a good addition to the case.

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      Quote Originally Posted by TedDeBearFrmHell View Post
      a magazine is "other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition."
      One would think so, but the TSA isn't all that bright. Like I said

      Quote Originally Posted by vamarine
      At one time there was a disclaimer stating that magazines did not count as "packaging" and that they needed to be empty. Not sure when/if this changed but probably still a good idea to keep the mags unloaded.
      Some TSA agents may not be aware of the change or just feel like being a pain in the ass.

      Edited to add: It looks like this may still be enforced.
      http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...rial_1188.shtm

      Firearms, ammunition and firearm parts may only be transported in checked baggage. Firearms, ammunition and firearm parts are prohibited from carry-on baggage. There are certain limited exceptions for law enforcement officers (LEOs) who are authorized to fly armed by meeting the requirements of 49 CFR § 1544.219.
      Following is a summary of key regulatory requirements to transport firearms, firearm parts or ammunition in checked baggage:

      • All firearms must be declared to the air carrier during the ticket counter check-in process.
      • The firearm must be unloaded.
      • The firearm must be carried in a hard-sided container.
      • The container must be locked.
      • The passenger must provide the key or combination to the screener if it is necessary to open the container, and then remain present during screening to take back possession of the key after the container is cleared.
      • Any ammunition transported must be securely packed in fiber (such as cardboard), wood or metal boxes or other packaging specifically designed to carry small amounts of ammunition.
      • Firearm magazines/clips do not satisfy the packaging requirement unless they provide a complete and secure enclosure of the ammunition (e.g., by securely covering the exposed portions of the magazine or by securely placing the magazine in a pouch, holder, holster or lanyard).
      • The ammunition may also be located in the same hard-sided case as the firearm, as long as it is properly packed as described above.
      • Black powder and percussion caps used with black-powder type firearms are not permitted in carry-on or checked baggage.

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      I have travelled with firearms and they said it had to be in a locked case.You must announce at the counter that you have the firerm, they also swabbed it for explosives, and then you have to pick it up somewhere else (not in baggage claim). It really was not that difficult. The big part is it must be locked and undder the plain. Just call ahead.

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      Dont forget it has to be a TSA approved lock

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