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    80-Year-Old Chicago Man Kills Armed Home Invader

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    80-Year-Old Chicago Man Kills Armed Home Invader

    Published May 26, 2010

    An 80-year-old Chicago man shot and killed an armed man who broke into his two-story house in a pre-dawn home invasion Wednesday on the city's West Side.

    At about 5:20 a.m., the homeowner and his wife, also in her 80s, discovered the intruder entering their home through a back door. The homeowner, who had a gun, confronted and killed the burglar on the doorstep, police said. Cops said the intruder also fired his gun during the struggle.

    "It's a good thing they had a gun, or they might be dead," said Curtis Thompson, who lives next door to the couple, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.

    Neighbors described the elderly couple, who both walk with canes, as pillars of the community in Garfield Park, where home invasions have been all too frequent.

    Their neighbor, Shaquite Johnson, told MyFoxChicago that the two are "heroes" for fighting off the attacker ó and that the shooting means there is "one less criminal" walking the streets.
    "They don't bother no one, so why would anyone do that to them?" she said.

    Relatives of the couple told the Sun Times that the man is an Army veteran, his wife a former nurse. Police said neither the man nor the woman was injured in the attack.

    The assailant, who was described by police as being in his 30s, was found slumped on the back doorstep of the couple's house, removed four hours after the shooting, the Sun Times reported.

    No charges have been filed against the homeowner, but Chicago currently has a statute outlawing the possession of handguns. Its legality is currently being decided by the U.S. Supreme Court.

    A high-profile Chicago attorney has already stepped forward offering to represent the man pro bono if he faces charges for possessing a weapon.

    "Self-defense isn't just a right, it's a duty," said attorney Joel Brodsky. "If this man is prosecuted for saving his own life it's not just a travesty, it's justice turned inside out."

    Mayor Daley: 'Guns is not the answer'
    "Guns is not the answer," according to Chicago's grammatically challenged mayor. This bit of . . . wisdom was Daley's response to what we discussed yesterday--a situation in which a gun was the answer. Says Hizzoner:

    I understand the situation and I understand. What I'm saying is all of us have to understand that guns is not the answer to problems we see in homes and on the streets of America. It's just has simple as that.

    For a guy who uses the word "understand" three times in two sentences, Daley seems to be the one whose understanding is a bit foggy. Perhaps he was confused about the question, but when asked "with what can 80-year-old man who walks with a cane best protect himself and his family from a young, fit, armed home invader (and career criminal), who has already illustrated his ruthlessness by firing twice?" a gun most certainly is the answer.

    This next part is what I want to talk about, though:

    Neither the mayor nor police superintendent would comment on whether charges are even being considered. Police say they have custody of two guns taken from the scene, and that their investigation is ongoing.

    And I see that I was correct about the homeowner's gun being confiscated--I daresay I'll also be right in my prediction that he'll never get it back.

    Another article puts it this way:

    Mayor Richard Daley refused to say today whether an 80-year-old Army veteran who shot and killed an intruder will be charged under the city's handgun ban.

    Asked about the possibility of charges, the mayor ended a news conference he had called about summer curfew in the city.

    "I don't know. Thank you very much," Daley said and stepped away from the microphone.
    As we discussed yesterday, the elderly home owner would seem to be protected from prosecution under Chicago's tyrannical handgun ban by legislation passed (over then Illinois Senator Obama's repeated votes and then Governor Blagojevich's veto) in 2004. Here's what that legislation does (very bottom of the page):

    Municipal ordinance regulating firearms; affirmative defense to a violation. It is an affirmative defense to a violation of a municipal ordinance that prohibits, regulates, or restricts the private ownership of firearms if the individual who is charged with the violation used the firearm in an act of self?defense or defense of another as defined in Sections 7?1 and 7?2 of this Code when on his or her land or in his or her abode or fixed place of business.

    In other words, the implied threat in Daley's refusal to rule out prosecution would seem to be an empty implied threat, directed at anyone else who, perhaps inspired by the homeowner's example, is considering his own refusal to be a victim.

    So, Mayor, if "guns is not the answer," what, may I ask, is your answer? Please don't tell me that reliance on the police is the answer--not only have courts ruled time and again that the police have no duty to protect the individual (and how could they?), Chicago Police Superintendent Jody Weis has himself recently acknowledged that the police are more or less powerless to prevent homicides inside homes.

    The ones that are outdoors we really should be able to have an impact on. ... Todayís tragedy [a murder-suicide earlier in the month] Ö is sad. Three people are dead. But, when itís inside a house, itís hard for police to have an impact on that. I wish we could. I just donít see where we can.

    It seems that the police don't have an answer. An 80-year-old Korean War veteran did--which is a good thing, because the consequences of getting the answer wrong would have been far worse than a poor grade.
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    "At about 5:20 a.m., the homeowner and his wife, also in her 80s, discovered the intruder entering their home through a back door. The homeowner, who had a gun, confronted and killed the burglar on the doorstep, police said. Cops said the intruder also fired his gun during the struggle."

    And the mayor of Chicago is still trying to determine where he stands on this issue?
    Give me a break.

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    Mayor Dailey is one strange bird. He must constantly be in touch with the other strange bird, Mayor Blumersburg of New York,and the other one from Boston. This is the guy that went to Nato for help with the "gun plague" isn't he? That poor old man and women, as old as they are, they have to be tormented by the establishment. That old man and women probably feel bad enough. You just cant win at anything anymore. Sorry for the rant. Hey Mayor Dailey this is for you.

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    Anybody that is familiar with "mayor the dupe daley" knows he is a elite idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldy View Post
    Anybody that is familiar with "mayor the dupe daley" knows he is a elite idiot.

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    Apparently the intruder was out of prison on parole and had a 13 page rap sheet.

    Wife of 80-year-old who shot intruder: 'He saved our lives' - Chicago Breaking News

    Hopefully, for the law abiding citizens of Chicago, the Supreme Court will overturn the silly law. Obviously, it does nothing to keep the guns out of the hands of criminals. Gun control laws never do. They just increase the potential victim pool.

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