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    Right on with the light bulbs!!!

    I did this myself at Wal Mart or Lowes one a few months ago. Definately TRUE!

    Zip Lock Brand bags (at least the ones I looked at) were made somewhere else also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1911 View Post
    I hear many great things about Ruger Semiautos but they use a fiberglass material rather than poly in their frames and it is like Teflon to me. I have to regrip after almost every shot. True poly pistols I have no problems with just like metal frame guns, with rubber or wood grips, no problems with them either, I have a GP100 though and the grip on it is sweet. I would love to have a Ruger semi in my collection but that fiberglass material just kills it for me.
    Do you know, are Rugers all American made?
    Try a Ruger P90. They have aluminum frames and with Hogue Grips feel good to me.

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    I like to keep our money in the states but I am not willing to buy an item that is sub par just because of where it was produced. I will buy an item based upon its engineering, production quality and customer service and the last consideration is where it is produced. I am sorry but the US really has lost its edge in the global market and often our products do not have the quality control as countries like germany companies for example.

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    In general, I believe in free trade. Cheaper foreign lumber makes building houses cheaper, etc. I have no problem buying goods or services made in western, or allied countries, England, Germany, Japan, etc, or even India. But I do prefer to buy American, all things being equal.

    The only exception is goods made in China, but that is more to hurt facist Chinese than it is to help American manufacturers. Btw way, when I say "China" I mean the People's Republic of China (PRC), not the Republic of China (ROC), I have no problem buying stuff made in Taiwan. This is usually impossible though, seeing as how almost all cothing items are made in China. Even my new $400.00 North Face Coat.... >

    Where guns are concerned it is much easier though, because most of the ones I am interested in are made in the US, or Europe. The Springfield XD's (With the gaint American flag on the label) are made in Croatia, but I rather like Croatia so it wouldn't bother me if I ever bought one. The only time that I'm really bothered by a gun's origin is if its a Chinese clone, partly because of the stigma of cheap mass produced Chinese goods and the assumed lower quallity, and partly because of my before mentioned attitude towards the PRC.

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    If the quality drops like it did with the K cars and all the stuff in the 70's than I don't have a problem buying anywhere with better quality . I am a disabled Vietnam Vet I love my country but I hope we don't get lazy and not give a damn like the 70's . Give 100% and people will buy your products

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1911 View Post
    I hear many great things about Ruger Semiautos but they use a fiberglass material rather than poly in their frames and it is like Teflon to me. I have to regrip after almost every shot. True poly pistols I have no problems with just like metal frame guns, with rubber or wood grips, no problems with them either, I have a GP100 though and the grip on it is sweet. I would love to have a Ruger semi in my collection but that fiberglass material just kills it for me.
    Do you know, are Rugers all American made?
    (And American owned) JBR

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    Germans make great guns. I love Walthers and HKs.

    I am a big time Beretta nut - they are Italian. But, 3 of my 4 Berettas are made in the USA.

    I just buy guns I like - I don't worry about where they are made at, personally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1911 View Post
    I hear many great things about Ruger Semiautos but they use a fiberglass material rather than poly in their frames and it is like Teflon to me. I have to regrip after almost every shot. True poly pistols I have no problems with just like metal frame guns, with rubber or wood grips, no problems with them either, I have a GP100 though and the grip on it is sweet. I would love to have a Ruger semi in my collection but that fiberglass material just kills it for me.
    Do you know, are Rugers all American made?
    I shoot the SR9 quite often It is a glass filled nylon frame. It is anything but slick. I shot one of them in USPSA so I put about 150 rounds down range every other Tuesday evening (I roltate my CZ in every other week) with it. i also put about 100 more on the weekend practicing. It is interesting to hear the teflon analogy again , I have not heard that about Rugers for years. I actually thought it went away.

    Ruger is a pretty good company very CS oriented and theymake a fine weapon for the place it holds in the market. To answer the original question......I support my local gun shop owner, my local gunsmith and I buy a pile of ammo. I buy the gun that best suits my intended purpose regardless of origin at the time with the money I feel it is worth. If I do not have enough money I wait until I do to make a purchase. I would never buy a gun manufactred in Florida just to save 100 bucks. NEVER! I would, on the other hand gladly buy one manufactured in Mass. for an extra 100 bucks though. I will also buy one made in the Czech Republic next time I see one of the stainless versions for a decent price. Because they are very good weapons.


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    +1 shipwreck

    I love my Sig's , Beretta's, Walther's, Rugers and more..

    I buy the gun that I like - where it is made is secondary to me.

    I wish they were all American made - but no way - there are just too many excellent guns made all over the world.


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    I always try and buy America First, but when it comes down to safety, I go with the best regardless where it is made, assembled etc. I know that Glock spends a good portion of money here and employs about as many people here as they have on staff in Austria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dondavis3 View Post
    I try to buy USA products, but I also try to buy the highest quality that my money can afford.

    The two objectives are rarely in line with each other.

    I agree. I would love to buy all American, but since I don't have a lot of money, I have to buy the very best that my few dollars can afford, and sometimes that means buying something made in another country.

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