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      Obama on Muslims and Islam

      Here's an interesting compilation of clips of Obama and his views on Muslims and Islam. Enjoy.


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      I saw a lot of his upbringing showing, but not much to show he's a legit Muslim as opposed to just another politician showing whatever faith he feels will win votes. I'm sure Pelosi could quote the Bible and Catholic doctrine too from her time in high school, but I wouldn't call her Catholic.

      It'd be giving them both too much credit.

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      C'mon 3 & 1/2 years!!!! Next one's GOTTA be better than this idiot.

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      There are enough reasons to not like the man or his administration without attacking his First Amendment right to freedom of religion.

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      Quote Originally Posted by thelonerang3r View Post
      There are enough reasons to not like the man or his administration without attacking his First Amendment right to freedom of religion.
      I fully agree with this!!

      However, when he has staunchly and repeatedly DENIED he is Muslim,IF he is, then it is not (to me) about his religous choice and beliefs, but his blatant lying. Wasnt there an incident of inquiry to mpeachment about another president regarding lying?

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      Yes, one President was impeached for lying- thank you for that. His lie, too, was irrelevant to the state of the Union. Does it really matter what his religious affiliation is, who he slept with, or what he had for dinner last night? Those are all personal matters.

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      Quote Originally Posted by thelonerang3r View Post
      Does it really matter what his religious affiliation is, who he slept with, or what he had for dinner last night? Those are all personal matters.
      To many it does. He should just have the balls to come out and say, I'm a muslim. Wasn't he schooled in Kenya at a young age in muslim schools? For crying out loud, his name is Barack Hussein Obama. If you were raised in Ireland in a catholic school and your name is Patrick Ryan Murphy, you're probably a catholic. Just admit it and be done with it. Has he picked a church of worship since he took the oath of office?

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      Quote Originally Posted by SigZagger View Post
      To many it does. He should just have the balls to come out and say, I'm a muslim. Wasn't he schooled in Kenya at a young age in muslim schools? For crying out loud, his name is Barack Hussein Obama. If you were raised in Ireland in a catholic school and your name is Patrick Ryan Murphy, you're probably a catholic. Just admit it and be done with it. Has he picked a church of worship since he took the oath of office?
      And this was my point. Frankly, i dont care who did what to whom with bill, monica and hilary. i DO care about illegal answers, and by whatever god you believe in, stand up and be a man! (umless you are a woman, then stand up and be a woman). Don't waffle and maybe. Dont lie and goof. Just BE HONEST.
      THEN maybe we can get on with life and addressing reall issues.

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      Quote Originally Posted by kg333 View Post
      I saw a lot of his upbringing showing, but not much to show he's a legit Muslim ...
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      Actually, I find the clip interesting as an insight to how Obama views Islam and Muslims. I didn't post it as proof Obama is a Muslim - I don't think the video makes that case very well.

      Regardless of whether Obama is a Muslim or not, the video shows Obama, in his own words, talking about Muslims and Islam. I find his glowing praise of Muslims and Islam to be in stark contrast to his world tours where he never misses a chance to apologize for the evils the US has inflicted upon the world.

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      Quote Originally Posted by thelonerang3r View Post
      There are enough reasons to not like the man or his administration without attacking his First Amendment right to freedom of religion.
      How is showing a video of Obama in his own words an affront to his FA right to freedom of religion?

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      Quote Originally Posted by James NM View Post
      How is showing a video of Obama in his own words an affront to his FA right to freedom of religion?
      +1..to sure how to make that drive from point A to B.

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      I wonder of Isreal feels about this guy. I mean,how they really feel about him.

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      Quote Originally Posted by James NM View Post
      How is showing a video of Obama in his own words an affront to his FA right to freedom of religion?
      Maybe I'm wrong, but the tone at the beginning of this thread made it seem Muslim=Bad Pres (He is, but for other reasons). So, to me, it was basically the same as an attack on that right.

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      Quote Originally Posted by thelonerang3r View Post
      ... Muslim=Bad Pres ...
      If we're talking about the US, those words are dead on.

      Iraq, Iran, Pakistan ... not so much.

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      How can that be said? Would you feel the same if he was Hindi or Buddhist?

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      Quote Originally Posted by thelonerang3r View Post
      Would you feel the same if he was Hindi or Buddhist?
      Currently those religions don't regularly strap bombs to themselves and kill hundreds of innocent people or decapitate people on camera all in the name of their god. Any religion, or group for that matter, that refers to me as an "Infidel" and wants me dead becuase I don't not believe the same things they do, does not earn my respect or trust, period.

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      "Jim Jones, David Koresh and Meir Kahane do not typify Christianity and Judaism in the eyes of the civilized West, but those same eyes are prone to see Osama bin Laden and Mullah Muhammad Omar as typifying Islam," Richard Bulliet
      A small minority of any religion, sect, or cult can be labeled extremists (gun owners included). To base judgement on an entire population because of the acts of a few...

      Didn't this country rise with tolerance? I'm not saying anyone should trust or respect someone for any reason, but as this relates to Obama, I think you're missing the forest because of the tree.
      Last edited by thelonerang3r; 11-19-2009 at 07:53 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by thelonerang3r View Post
      A small minority of any religion, sect, or cult can be labeled extremists (gun owners included). To base judgement on an entire population because of the acts of a few...
      Apparently you and I have very different definitions of "a few". When I stop reading on an almost daily basis about bombings and killings in the name of Allah, and it get's to the point where it's every now and again like the occasional nut-job mall killer, then I will consider it "a few". Until then, I keep my current stance.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
      ...When I stop reading on a almost daily basis about bombings and killings in the name of Allah...
      Acts of war will cease (reduce) when war is over. How often did suicide bombers make the news before the wars started?

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      Quote Originally Posted by thelonerang3r View Post
      Acts of war will cease (reduce) when war is over.
      Really? Were we "at war" when terrorists flew planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon killing THOUSANDS of innocent Americans just going about their daily lives? It's over when they say it's over, not us. To think that terrorism will cease or reduce because we say we're done playing in the sandbox is naive.

      Quote Originally Posted by thelonerang3r View Post
      How often did suicide bombers make the news before the wars started?
      It makes the news now becuase it's our guys getting blown up, so the networks deem it newsworthy. I will bet vital parts of my anatomy that it happened plenty more than than was reported over here before we went to war and will continue long after we have left the playing field, it just won't be our guys getting killed (as often) so the fickle news media will move on to something else.

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