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    Swine Flu Shot?

    Just wondering what the membership thought about getting the H1N1 vaccine.

    I've decided to pass.

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    I don't normally get flu shots, and don't plan to change that. H1N1 is already making its way around my campus to all appearances (test apparently takes 5 days to come back, so student health clinic is just calling it H1N1 if it looks like the flu), so by the time the vaccine is out for the general public, it'll be done here anyway.

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    Too many people are hoping for a pandemic to wipe old people out so I'm just going to stay out in the boonies away from the problem.

    Any swine that flu by my house will have been shot.

    Yes, I know, it's a sick joke.


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    Absolutely no way I would take it.

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    I'm not getting it. I'm skeptical about flu shots in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeefyBeefo View Post
    Absolutely no way I would take it.
    Why? Maybe you don't get flu shots ever, but if you did and this virus would have been known a few months earlier it would have been included in the regular flu shot that many people get. For some reason people think that this is different then any other flu virus and its not. Its physically impossible to get sick from getting a flu shot.

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    I already got the regular flu shot, as did my wife and our son. From what I've read, I don't think the swine flu will be too much of a threat to myself or my wife, but we're undecided as to weather to get the boy vaccinated. He'll probably get it if we're at the doctor's office and its offered, but I don't think we'll make a special trip.

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    I've never gotten a flu shot and I don't intend to start now.
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    Not a chance in hell! No neurotoxins for me. I'll get the flu before I let them shoot me up with that shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisbradley441 View Post
    ... Its physically impossible to get sick from getting a flu shot.
    Try telling that to the injured, sick, and dead people who got a flu shot.

    The last swine flu outbreak was in 1976, and the government ran a big public campaign to get everyone shots. The only problem was that more people died from complications of the vaccine than the swine flu. Other than that, everything was great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James NM View Post
    Try telling that to the injured, sick, and dead people who got a flu shot.

    The last swine flu outbreak was in 1976, and the government ran a big public campaign to get everyone shots. The only problem was that more people died from complications of the vaccine than the swine flu. Other than that, everything was great.
    What he said- I like my chances of surviving the virus more than I like the chance of not being killed by the vaccine

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    The way I understand it (Wife works in a hospital) they really have not had the time to get a dormant strain and be able to mass produce it to be able to unleash this thing on the people. She was told it's just two types of flu shot mixed together. So it really wont do any good if you did take it and the possible down side is actually more apt to happen.

    My main question would be to any medical professional that loves to get the news people all hyped up is with the people that have dies from the H1N1 what other medical problems did they have that could make any flu a bigger problem?

    Out of the people ...All one or two that have showed up in this county with H1N1 no one has been any worse off than with any other flu. If anything they were not as bad. I think it's all hype and people need to look at something else to get all crazy about. Like how damn stupid the H1N1 hype is. Or why it's so bug a story to begin with? Looks to me like a "hey look at that!" while the bad people run away type thing. Can't talk about the government when Swine Flu is a big deal. Who cares that the POTUS says we are not going after any pot heads anymore because they don't want to have to raid the White House. Don't look at run away spending or the health care option they are surly wanting to ride the coat tails of this BS. Because only Big Brother can save is from pig flu. Who cares that the pork industry is about to hit rock bottom because all the hype is causing people to be afraid to buy pork products because that's how you get it you know

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    They snuck a 2007 strain of H1N1 into our flu-mists required by work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisbradley441 View Post
    Its physically impossible to get sick from getting a flu shot.
    That's wrong, it's actually the opposite. A vaccine is an injection of a dormant strain of the bacteria or virus. The reason flu shots don't work is because they use last year's strain, and this year's strain has changed slightly. That's what viruses do. That's why there's no aids vaccine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigrobwoot View Post
    That's wrong, it's actually the opposite. A vaccine is an injection of a dormant strain of the bacteria or virus. The reason flu shots don't work is because they use last year's strain, and this year's strain has changed slightly. That's what viruses do. That's why there's no aids vaccine.
    +1 A good friend of mine got the H1N1 shot two weeks ago... and ended up with full blown Swine Flu. It's rare, but it happens.
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    That's also why they (usually, as far as I know) don't let you get one if you're already sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisbradley441 View Post
    Why? Maybe you don't get flu shots ever, but if you did and this virus would have been known a few months earlier it would have been included in the regular flu shot that many people get. For some reason people think that this is different then any other flu virus and its not. Its physically impossible to get sick from getting a flu shot.

    To add to the above, it is not the exact same type of shot. It was rushed into "production" and I don't want it anywhere near me.

    I haven't gotten the regular flu shot in a few years, but am/would not be against getting it.

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    I absolutely did not want to get the shot, but I did. My daughter is 8 months old, and my wife and I both got the shot, in hopes of keeping our daughter safe. If it weren't for her, you couldn't have paid me to get that injection.

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    I'm a little surprised by the poll. I thought more people would be in favor of the shot. Here's an unusual and very tragic video of someone who got the shot:




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    Quote Originally Posted by James NM View Post
    I'm a little surprised by the poll. I thought more people would be in favor of the shot. Here's an unusual and very tragic video of someone who got the shot:



    Holy shit!!!

    Found this article that might be worth a good read as well for everybody.

    Once again, as the weather starts to get a little colder, we are told by "authorities" we must dutifully get in line for our flu shot. Why?????

    The flu shot has never been proven either effective, nor safe. Vaccine rates have gone from 15% to over 65% in the elderly population (the group supposedly that needs it the most) yet the death rate of flu has not changed. And speaking of the death rate of the flu, the CDC promotes numbers in the tens of thousands dieing of the flu. But when one digs a little deeper, those deaths also include pneumonia deaths. The flu alone kills fewer than 1000 every year. So if someone tells you, you need the shot or you could die from the flu, is either ignorant or flat out lying to you.

    Why doesn't the shot work? It takes 6-9 months to develop a vaccine for any virus. By the time the current virus is identified, the flu season would be over before a vaccine could be made. So, vaccine manufacturers take last year's virus, mutate it in the lab into what they think this year's virus will be and make the vaccine. they haven't gotten it right yet! They have come close, and in those years when they thought they had it right, the best the flu shot could do was 40% effective. Health care workers know this, as less than 40% get the shot.

    Plus you don't get the flu from a puncture wound. Injecting multiple viruses into the body causes your immune system to recognize the multiple viruses in puncture wounds. You get the flu through the mucous membranes. So if you do come in contact with the flu, by the time your body recognizes the virus, it has already begun to make you sick. This is why authorities say if you catch the flu it will be milder. And yes most people do get sick after receiving the shot. While it is true they didn't get the flu from the shot, while your body is busy developing a response to up to 3 different viruses, it does not have enough energy or resources to deal with a naturally occuring infection.

    Flu shots are harmless, right? Not quite. Side effects are numerous and include a severe paralytic disorder called Guillian-Barre Syndrome. The flu shot contains aluminum, mercury, ethylene glycol (anti-freeze), anti-biotics and formaldehyde. Research has shown receiving 5 consective flu shots increases your risk of Alzheimers. The amount of mercury in a flu shot exceeds the EPA safe level for a 550 pound man. Because of this, giving a flu shot to a pregnant woman is not only insane, but should be considered a criminal act!

    Instead of relying on an external substance to keep you healthy, understand that your immune system is more than capable of fighting off any disease that comes around. To keep your immune system healthy, eat plenty of fresh fruits and vegetables, get some exercise, get plenty of rest, get 20 minutes of sunshine daily (or supplement with 2-5000 IU Vit D daily), avoid people who are sick, and of course wash your hands frequently.

    The best treatment for the flu is prevention. But if you do come down with the flu, here is what to do: Rest!!!, get plenty of fluids, increase Vit D to 10-20,000 IU per day for 3-4 days, and get adjusted as soon as you can.

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    For anyone that wants a little more information than "Inside Edition" or Facebook will provide, here's a little lite reading.

    Is anyone really basing dicisions about their family's health on what they saw on a celebrity gossip tv show or a forwarded email without doing a bit more research? God, I hope not.

    Preventing Seasonal Flu

    Is it better to use a flu inhaler or get a flu shot?

    Guidelines for the Prevention and Treatment of Influenza

    Read this before you get a flu shot (CNN)

    Flu shot: Your best bet for avoiding influenza (Mayo Clinic)

    Key Facts About Seasonal Flu Vaccine

    2009 H1N1 INFLUENZA INFORMATION

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    Quote Originally Posted by kev74 View Post
    Is anyone really basing dicisions about their family's health on what they saw on a celebrity gossip tv show or a forwarded email without doing a bit more research? God, I hope not.
    Not speaking for anyone else, but as a parent of a child with Autism (which many people feel is connected with vaccines) my wife and I have been researching vaccines and their effects for a few years, and continue to do so. Our decision not to use the flu vaccine, or many other vaccines for that matter, is based on our findings, not from what is put on TV or email.

    Forgive me is my post wasn't scientific or fancy enough for you. Irregardless of where it came from, I felt it did a good job of summarizing a lot of the information into a short space and didn't require the other members to click multiple links. I'll refrain from posting any more on the subject since, even though the information is correct, the source I used did not meet your standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kev74 View Post
    For anyone that wants a little more information than "Inside Edition" or Facebook will provide, here's a little lite reading.

    Is anyone really basing dicisions about their family's health on what they saw on a celebrity gossip tv show or a forwarded email without doing a bit more research? God, I hope not. ...
    Thanks kev for "saving" the thread with the only (self proclaimed) intelligent post.

    We are not worthy.

    Maybe you could post your email address so that the proletariat can clear all future posts with you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by James NM View Post
    Thanks kev for "saving" the thread with the only (self proclaimed) intelligent post.

    We are not worthy.

    Maybe you could post your email address so that the proletariat can clear all future posts with you?
    You're right and I'm sorry. I had no right to provide a few different sources of information about the topic at hand and in doing so, belittle the valuable information Inside Edition brought us via YouTube. Any way, what do scientists know anyway...except for all that stuff they learned in school and through experiments?

    It should be noted that one of my MySpace friends told me that Inside Edition was originally scheduled to show a story about Balloon Boy and a celebrity that went to rehab, but instead showed a piece about a cheerleader who may or may not have gotten sick from a flu shot because that story was so important.

    But, if it would make you feel better to clear your future posts with me, my message box here at HGF has lots of room. I'll get my OK back to you right after I find out what Britney Spears is up to... Important stuff first, you know!

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    Oh my, we are back to the age old question of which of the many sources of absolute truth shall we trust today.

    When the powers that be try their best to force feed us with a pandemic for 2 or 3 years running I tend to not believe they are being up front with us.

    Someone is simply trying to get in our pocket book one more time and they don't realy care if a few of us die in the process.

    I opt out.


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