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    Quote Originally Posted by tekhead1219 View Post
    I'm curious as to the reason for the termination. What did they say in the letter justified the action?
    Depending on the state, they may not need to provide a reason. "Due to your conduct" does sound a bit vague to be a solid reason for termination.

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    Unfortunately, a lot of companies now hire people "at will" (I think that's the term?) and when you sign on, agree that they can terminate you at at time for any reason. Funny how those same companies still expect you to give them 2+ weeks notice when they can give you 2 seconds.

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    Just found this thread. Any updates? What did the lawyer say?

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    well the NRA recommended lawyer referred me to a law firm that handles employment litigation.

    this firm advised me to contact the federal labor board and get back to them with the results of the investigation.

    only prob is, the federal labor board told me they don't investigate anything unless there is a "clear as day" violation of federal labor laws.

    i emailed this info to that employment firm and haven't heard anything back. that was about a week ago.

    i think tomorrow i am going to call that NRA lawyer again tomorrow (he was really cool, prob because he's a gun nut like us lol) and ask him for a referral to a different employment litigation specialist.

    i'll let you guys know what happens next.

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    So to review a little bit....

    - Your previous employer caught you dicking off on the job (it doesn't matter if it was a gun web site or not).
    - Your previous employer gave you a warning not to dick off on the same web sites.
    - You got advice from a bunch of people you don't know who told you it would be a good idea to curtail your recreational internet activities at work. You didn't.
    - You got fired for continuing to dick off when they advised you not to.

    ---And now you want to sue your former employer for some kind of discrimination??!?!?! Not only that, but you want someone else to pay for the lawyer so you can sue your former employer for firing you because they got tired of paying your salary for dicking off when they specifically told you not to.

    That encapsulates just about everything wrong with this country today - a complete and total inability to take responsibility for your own actions. Your employer was a jerk for asking you to stop looking at gun sites at work.... you were treated unfairly for getting fired for continuing to look at gun web sites at work. And now, the NRA, a local lawyer and the "federal labor board" aren't doing enough to punish your former employer. At what point does it stop being someone else's fault?

    So, since you're sure your previous employer did wrong here, why not hire a lawyer to sue them for damages and lost wages? I think your time would be better spent looking for a new job.


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    kev,

    I see your point on this thread and I would whole heartily agree with you had you read the entire scenario. You have a few key facts skewed and it changes everything.

    1. Employees were allowed to browse the internet in their leisure time. In other words, the OP had permission to dick off.

    2. After the employer said something to him, he did not go back to the website, out of respect for their wishes. Even though it was against his grain, so to speak.

    3. Shortly after, they fired him. A bit too cooncidental having just been approached about frequenting a "gun" website.

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    I'm posting to see how this goes. Good luck - I wish you the best. With all the crap lawsuits I hear about getting awarded for things not worthy - I hope and would like to see you awarded something outta this - to help not only you but others who may be discrimminated against in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falchunt View Post
    kev,

    I see your point on this thread and I would whole heartily agree with you had you read the entire scenario. You have a few key facts skewed and it changes everything.

    1. Employees were allowed to browse the internet in their leisure time. In other words, the OP had permission to dick off.

    2. After the employer said something to him, he did not go back to the website, out of respect for their wishes. Even though it was against his grain, so to speak.

    3. Shortly after, they fired him. A bit too coincidental having just been approached about frequenting a "gun" website.
    1. dances with guns never states what the official company policy is in regard to personal internet access at his company. I'd be willing to bet that his former company has some kind of policy regulating personal use of their computers which they may or may not choose to enforce. If he has some kind of documentation stating anything otherwise, I'd love to see it and would apologize at that time.

    2. His first post was on 9/17 at 11:52 am. His next post in this thread was on 9/18 at 1:42 pm - The day after he was spoken to and during regular working hours. I'm sure his employer was paying close enough attention to his internet usage that this didn't escape their attention. I've also seen this same issue posted on another gun related forum with a different user name, but almost word for word first post.

    3. Shortly thereafter they fired him - after he continued to do what they suggested he stop doing the next day. What should they have done, give him a time out? This is a business not a day care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kev74 View Post
    1. dances with guns never states what the official company policy is in regard to personal internet access at his company. I'd be willing to bet that his former company has some kind of policy regulating personal use of their computers which they may or may not choose to enforce. If he has some kind of documentation stating anything otherwise, I'd love to see it and would apologize at that time.

    2. His first post was on 9/17 at 11:52 am. His next post in this thread was on 9/18 at 1:42 pm - The day after he was spoken to and during regular working hours. I'm sure his employer was paying close enough attention to his internet usage that this didn't escape their attention. I've also seen this same issue posted on another gun related forum with a different user name, but almost word for word first post.

    3. Shortly thereafter they fired him - after he continued to do what they suggested he stop doing the next day. What should they have done, give him a time out? This is a business not a day care.

    read my original post-my former employer allowed net surfing, with no specific prohibition of firearms sites. as i already sad, they never mentioned any issues with net surfing affecting my work and sites they didn't want you on were blocked by a firewall.

    can't remember if i put this on a different forum, so what if i did? what's your prob with that?

    i don't appreciate you nonsensical replies to my thread concerning my employment termination....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dances with guns View Post
    can't remember if i put this on a different forum, so what if i did? what's your prob with that?
    So, you posted on at least 2 gun related forums after you were told not to... but its not your fault you got canned.

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    i don't appreciate you nonsensical replies to my thread concerning my employment termination....
    And yet you posted your sob story all over the internet.

    I don't appreciate that you're trying to use the NRA's resources (my dues) and the "federal labor board"'s (whatever that is) resources (my taxes) to try and get back at your former employer after they fired you for dicking off - i.e. using their resources to look at gun sites after they told you not to.

    Man-up and take responsibility for your actions.

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    I am all about being fair but I think Kev74 pretty much nailed it.

    Put yourself in the managers shoes. It only takes one person to tell the manager what you were doing and that manager is forced to take action.

    I am at work right now BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kev74 View Post
    So, you posted on at least 2 gun related forums after you were told not to... but its not your fault you got canned.


    And yet you posted your sob story all over the internet.

    i posted those while at home, sitting on my comfy bed. everything i posted after being told not to go onto gun sites at work was done at home.......get a clue

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyCop View Post
    I'm posting to see how this goes. Good luck - I wish you the best. With all the crap lawsuits I hear about getting awarded for things not worthy - I hope and would like to see you awarded something outta this - to help not only you but others who may be discrimminated against in the future.

    thank you, appreciate it

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    Quote Originally Posted by kev74 View Post


    And yet you posted your sob story all over the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kev74 View Post
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    I don't appreciate that you're trying to use the NRA's resources (my dues) and the "federal labor board"'s (whatever that is) resources (my taxes) to try and get back at your former employer after they fired you for dicking off - i.e. using their resources to look at gun sites after they told you not to.

    Man-up and take responsibility for your actions.


    i got the FREE NRA membership offered recently. i bet that just steams you


    i think this pic is also appropriate for you and your whining.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dances with guns View Post

    For what?


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    Enough

    Pissing contest over.


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