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    Touche Mike. However, I don't find his association with democrats entirely distasteful. Rather, I can appreciate a man who will work with "the other side" if the goal is the same as opposed to one who will blindly follow the party line, and block good ideas just because they didn't propose them.

    Though his implementation on McCain-Feingold (for example) is certainly up for debate as heavy-handed, the root intention of discouraging the bribery of politicians is overwhelmingly positive in my view. The alternative of "do nothing" is, by definition, certainly not going to solve the problem.
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    Rather, I can appreciate a man who will work with "the other side" if the goal is the same as opposed to one who will blindly follow the party line, and block good ideas just because they didn't propose them.
    Sure. Let's look at the legislation I mentioned.

    McCain-Feingold: muzzle "special interest" groups like NRA, ACLU, NAACP, etc., First Amendment be damned, so that no one can criticize politicans before an election.

    McCain-Kennedy: relabel illegal aliens as "legal workers" and add 400,000 "guest workers" to the American labor pool, in exchange for vague promises about some future tightening of the porous border.

    McCain-Lieberman: remove 39,000 jobs from the American economy, cause a 13% rise in energy prices, and increase gasoline costs by 9% in an attempt to curry favor with the worldwide environmental lobby.

    The alternative of "do nothing" is, by definition, certainly not going to solve the problem.
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    I can only intelligently debate the first, so please excuse my lack of comment on the others. Perhaps I can catch up on those later, though I doubt you'll get much arguement from me on any amnesty program for illegal aliens.

    Regarding the infringement on the First Amendment, are you suggesting that it protects the rights of organizations and corporations as well as individuals?

    Individuals (and corporations for that matter) are still free to criticise candidates, they are only barred from doing an end-around of the campaign finance limits by donating services rather than cash. I think we'd all object to a foreign power bankrolling the candidacy of a favored person, should it be any different for say, the AFL-CIO?

    I certainly don't want the President of the United States decided by the highest bidder. Leaving it up to the best funded special interest is not much different.

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