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    Meh. Fed up.

    I changed my party affiliation to Independent today after fifteen or so years as a Republican. Not that there has been any individual event that precipitated it, aside from the coronation of the Manchurian Candidate, but I finally grew extremely tired of the GOP.

    I stayed in the GOP for the last two presidential elections so I could vote in the primaries. However, the GOP has persisted in putting up faux conservatives as candidates, so voting in the primaries was a waste of time. I skipped the last primary, since I live in Arizona and the Manchurian Candidate was guaranteed a win. Since there is no way in hell I will ever give John McCain my vote for anything, including dogcatcher, I couldn't give my approval to this party anymore.

    It was time to leave. I feel better now.
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    I understand your frustration with the McCain and the GOP, but compared to the alternative, I'll have to hold my nose and vote for him.

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    I donít blame you. There is not much of a difference in the two parties. Iíll vote for whatever independent candidate pops up, even if they have a snowballs chance in hell of being elected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hberttmank View Post
    I understand your frustration with the McCain and the GOP, but compared to the alternative, I'll have to hold my nose and vote for him.
    That's valid. But I simply cannot forgive John McCain for his eager trampling on the First Amendment with "Bipartisan Campaign Finance Reform." I consider McCain as dangerous to liberty as the Democrats - if not moreso.
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    i understand your pain
    i voted in the primary but not for mccain
    considering the supreme court upcoming vacancies - i gotta go with mccain becuase the others results in a terrible supreme court result

    hope he picks romney as VP

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    Quote Originally Posted by hideit View Post
    considering the supreme court upcoming vacancies - i gotta go with mccain becuase the others results in a terrible supreme court result

    hope he picks romney as VP
    My state (IL.) is going to the democrats anyway, so Iíll use my vote to make a statement. Go Nader!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hideit View Post
    i gotta go with mccain becuase the others results in a terrible supreme court result
    A Supreme Court composed largely of justices appointed by Republican presidents upheld McCain-Feingold. It's certainly no guarantee of liberty.
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    I feel your pain.

    I switched my party affiliation away from the Republican party a few years back when Tom Delay and co. went on their redistricting kick. They eliminated my congressman's district and gave it to a neighboring district with a bigger fundraising base - so we little people got ignored.

    Ever since Bill Clinton got elected, Republicans stopped being Republicans. They went from responsible spending, less taxes and smaller government to the party of SPEND SPEND SPEND and let someone else pick up the tab. And since Dubbya got in, we've got more spending yet with now way to pay for it - along with the biggest expansion of big government since FDR, but at least FDR's government programs helped people. Now we've got Homeland Security to spy on us, the TSA to make sure we take our shoes off before we get on a plane, and we've got the BATFE (what happened to the plain old ATF?) closing down small gun shops. With all this, does anyone feel safer? No. But the rich keep getting richer and the rest of us keep cutting back to keep our heads above water.

    I never thought I'd do it, but if Obama gets the nomination, I'm going to vote Deomcratic for president. I'd rather give someone else a chance to screw things up a different way than keep going down the road we're on.

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    I'll hold my nose and vote for him only because he's the lesser of three evils. Then I'll go outside and

    The Republicans are trying to squeeze out the real conservitives and this could get ugly if they stay home in droves. I can't figure out how he got the nomination other than the early primaries were stacked in favor of liberal states. There is some talk that a lot of Libs and Independents crossed over to get him up in the poles. Kinda like what Rush is doing to the Dems now.

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    You do need to tell the repubcrats that you changed and why. They won't even know your gone unless you tell them why.

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    I've been an "independent" for the last 10 years and will stay that way.

    Both parties are a direct threat to our liberties at this point. The America our founding fathers and ancestors fought and died for.... is dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by js View Post
    I've been an "independent" for the last 10 years and will stay that way.

    Both parties are a direct threat to our liberties at this point. The America our founding fathers and ancestors fought and died for.... is dead.
    As sad as it is I think you may be right. I would rather go with them than live in a socialist state.

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    "We the People" do have the power to change this if there are enough of us. The question is, are there enough of us? I sometimes get the feeling that I'm a stranger in a weird world. I can't believe some of the dribble that people believe as fact. I get the feeling that the Repugnacans lost the Senate and House because we the people were trying to send a message. The trouble is they read the message just the opposite of what we were trying to say and they went left instead of right.
    I couldn't believe my ears when the Hilderbeast said she was gonna take the oil Co.s profits! Who the hell gave her or the Government the right to take the profit of anyone just because they made more than she thinks they should....and the stupids out there ate it up. Both she and O'blunder are gonna raise taxes on the "rich" and the corporations. Who the Hell do you think is gonna end up paying that TAX!.....and the stupid people just eat it up......
    Are we as a country THAT STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!

    I hope when the dust clears with the Dem primary that they start eating McCain's lunch HARD! Maybe he'll get the picture and quit screwing around with playing kiss up to them.

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    I actually tend to have a pretty optimistic view of America, and definitely don't walk around in a state of high dudgeon about the state of a country that offers tremendous personal freedom and an extremely high standard of living. We have it great in America, and I deeply appreciate my good fortune in being born an American.

    I just don't think the GOP represents my views anymore and I think John McCain is an authoritarian threat to liberty. Obama is no better, of course, so I won't be voting for him, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    I actually tend to have a pretty optimistic view of America, and definitely don't walk around in a state of high dudgeon about the state of a country that offers tremendous personal freedom and an extremely high standard of living. We have it great in America, and I deeply appreciate my good fortune in being born an American.

    I just don't think the GOP represents my views anymore and I think John McCain is an authoritarian threat to liberty. Obama is no better, of course, so I won't be voting for him, either.
    I'm pretty sour at the moment at the state of things.... We have it good, I just look at the steady decline...it's not getting any better. I now think about what it's going to like in the future for my "soon to be born" grandson... (god that's still weird to comprehend)

    anyway...
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    I hate to break this to you, but it isn't 1776 anymore.

    Very interesting article here, about the "new conservatism" in Great Britain: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/09/op...ml?ref=opinion. Some of this has some appeal to me. As much as I hate to quote a hero of the Left, I often find myself quoting Ghandi: "We must be the change we wish to see in the world." It's why I joined the Guard, why I'm a Big Brother, why I bought a gas-sipper car, and a large measure of why I live my life as I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
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    I just don't think the GOP represents my views anymore and I think John McCain is an authoritarian threat to liberty. Obama is no better, of course, so I won't be voting for him, either.
    So, you're hoping for Hillary, then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Niner View Post
    So, you're hoping for Hillary, then?
    I'd vote for Hillary before I'd vote for John McCain. But you'd have to light me on fire to make me vote for either one.

    But she appears to be DRT, which makes it a moot point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    I hate to break this to you, but it isn't 1776 anymore.

    Very interesting article here, about the "new conservatism" in Great Britain: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/09/op...ml?ref=opinion. Some of this has some appeal to me. As much as I hate to quote a hero of the Left, I often find myself quoting Ghandi: "We must be the change we wish to see in the world." It's why I joined the Guard, why I'm a Big Brother, why I bought a gas-sipper car, and a large measure of why I live my life as I do.
    The article was going great until it got to this statement...
    (he admires Schwarzenegger and Bloomberg)


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    You just now washed your hands of them?

    I could care less about political parties. I just want our officials to genuinely care about our liberties and the principles on which this nation is founded. To serve this nation instead of their parties and themselves.

    As I said when it came down to the three candidates, it's pretty sad that all of the candidates are worse than who they're replacing.

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