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    The decline of the country's political system, has evolved from the newest "career field" in the american system. POLITICIAN. Up until just 20 years ago, our politicians were formerly something else... Now, all of our top level politicians have been career politicians since they won 6th grade class president.

    Like acedemics, who have never seen the real world... never hired or fired someone... never interviewed, only campaigned... never made a decision without consulting a poll...

    The only shining exception to this, is John McCain, former Military... I agree, that I hate his politics, some of them.

    The solution is coming though...

    It's called the THOUSANDS of men and women who have been fighting "over there" for YEARS now... We're starting to see a few good LTC and Cols show up with hats in the ring at the state and local levels.

    The war in Afganistan and Iraq is a terrible thing that our country must do. It hurts families, but it builds men and women. Conservative men and women with world perspective.

    I'm looking forward to voting for these men and women in the future. Until then, I share MOST of Mike's optimism...

    This country has taken a few good shots to the ribs in the past few years... but we're far from out of the fight.

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    I don't think all, or even most, of our troops overseas are necessarily conservative. In my experience, most are apolitical, and those that are political are pretty evenly divided between Republicans and Democrats.

    For example, I once listened to a political debate between three members of the 173rd Airborne. The two senior enlisted soldiers were both strong Democrats, while the lone officer was a Republican.

    The "problem," if it is one, with soldiers is that they grow accustomed to the government taking care of them with health care, housing, legal assistance, food, etc. and often think that the government can do the same for the whole of the American people. Combine this with the strong authoritarian/hierarchal streak in most career military people, who are used to people simply obeying orders, and you have a potential recipe for a power-hungry, socialist politician.

    Not to say all ex-military people will go this political route, but I certainly don't think recent vets are necessarily a solution to our country's woes.

    And regardless of what we hear on right-wing propaganda outlets, most soldiers do not want to be in Iraq or Afghanistan to "finish the job" or whatever. Yes, it behooves career-minded officers and senior NCOs to say that, but the average Joe just wants to survive his tour and go home. For good.
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    My wife and I have never registered for a particular party and probably never will. Staying NPA (No Party Affiliation) is where we like to stay.

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    I was an independent for years but I've never voted for a Democrat so I went ahead and registered as a Republican. For the most part they were more in line with my thinking. I guess I'm more of a Liberaterian leaning conservative than anything. The only reason I'll vote for McCain is I know the other two will raise taxes and generally push a Socialist agenda. That, and it would give Nancy the Witch a free hand and that woman scares the hell outa me. If Boreox O'Blunder get in it will be worse than the Carter years. I wonder if that guy can get his shoes on the right feet in the morning. I really get the feeling the guy is all silver tunged smoke and mirrors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffWard View Post
    The decline of the country's political system, has evolved from the newest "career field" in the american system. POLITICIAN. Up until just 20 years ago, our politicians were formerly something else... Now, all of our top level politicians have been career politicians since they won 6th grade class president.
    This is why I STRONGLY support term limits. Dipsh*ts like Ted Kennedy need the boot. Hell, he even killed someone and he's still in office.
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    The funny thing is, I use the Army's health care system as a case study against socialist medicine and it never fails to correct people who have never seen a socialist health care system in action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolver View Post
    The funny thing is, I use the Army's health care system as a case study against socialist medicine and it never fails to correct people who have never seen a socialist health care system in action.
    I never really needed military health care while I was deployed, beyond some prescription meds. The pharmacy at Fort Bragg was remarkably efficient. My wife and daughter were reasonably pleased with the military's TriCare system - they found it no worse than a civilian insurance system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    My wife and daughter were reasonably pleased with the military's TriCare system - they found it no worse than a civilian insurance system.
    My wife keeps threatening to sign me up for the military just so we can get TriCare. They're just about the only insurance out there that covers ABA therapy for kids with Autism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    My wife keeps threatening to sign me up for the military just so we can get TriCare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
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    That ain't happening. That whole roughing it thing and I sunburn easily. Plus I really don't like sand.

    Now if I could get a cushy assignment in the Air Force with some air conditioned job and barracks, then maybe I'd go for it.

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