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    Fresno Student Shot, Killed by Police Officer After Bat Attack

    Wednesday, April 16, 2008

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    April 16: A school official talks to parents in front of Roosevelt High School near where a youth was shot, killed in Fresno, Calif.

    FRESNO, Calif. A police officer shot and killed a 17-year-old high school student Wednesday after authorities said the teenager clubbed the officer with a baseball bat on the packed, urban campus.

    The officer fired at the student shortly before noon, after the Roosevelt High School sophomore allegedly came from behind and struck the officer in the head with a crude wooden baseball bat, Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer said.

    The officer fell down dazed, and reached for the gun in his hip holster, but the clip fell out. Duh, no wonder he could fire his main weapon. He tried putting a clip in a pistol.

    As the student came at him a second time, the officer grabbed a secondary weapon a semiautomatic handgun he carried as backup from his ankle holster and fired one or two rounds, Dyer said. The student reportedly died within a few minutes.

    "The officer was fortunate that he was able to defend himself," the chief said. "This officer had a secondary weapon that very likely could have saved his life." Thank God for backups!

    The cause of the attack was not immediately known, and the officer did not know the student, Dyer said. There was no history of prior run-ins between the teen and the officer, who has been assigned to the school by the police department for the last three years, he said.

    Police did not immediately release the identities of the officer or student, who was described as a Fresno resident who transferred to the school in January. The teenager was 6 feet tall and 250 pounds larger than the officer, authorities said.

    The officer was released from a local hospital Wednesday afternoon after being treated for a two-inch gash on the right side of his head, police said. He will be placed on administrative leave while the department reviews his conduct, Dyer said.

    At least five students and a probation officer on campus witnessed the incident directly, but no one else was injured in the shooting, police said.

    The campus was locked down for several hours as detectives combed the white school buildings and interviewed witnesses.

    An automated system called all parents in the district to notify them of the shooting about three hours after it occurred, and parents of Roosevelt High School students received a second message stating that all students and staff were safe an hour later.

    "The school district obviously is very saddened by this tragedy on campus, however our students on campus are safe," said Ruth Quinto, acting superintendent of Fresno Unified School District. "There certainly will continue to be support provided to all of our students here on the campus and, in particular, any witnesses to this tragedy."

    Six extra district psychologists will be sent to the school Thursday to counsel students and staff, said district spokeswoman Susan Bedi.

    By 2 p.m., students were allowed to leave the campus gates, where they found a crowd of nervous parents and family members waiting.

    Dana Vasquez, a 14-year-old freshman, was on her way to gym class when the situation erupted in an outdoor hallway between two buildings.

    "I just saw a bat swinging in the air and heard a gunshot and then I just started running," Vasquez said. She was visibly shaken when she left the school holding her mother's arm.

    Ray Mendez, a volunteer at the school, said he was speaking to a remedial English class when he heard a loud popping sound outside the classroom.

    "That's went I went down and saw the young man lying there and the officer was bleeding from his head. This was a real shocker. We try to prevent these kind of events at all costs," Mendez said.

    Silvia Carrillo, whose daughter is a sophomore at Roosevelt High, said the shooting did not seem justified.

    "My son and my brother went to school here too, and nothing like this ever happened. I think this wasn't enough for him to kill the kid," she said.
    Say what!? A bat to the head is deadly force. The officer protected himself.

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    Oh, and don't bring a baseball bat to a gun fight. Good thing that LEO had a backup

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    The magazine safety could have cost him his life. I don't like them.

    If the homes and schools don't start demanding better behaviour from their children we will see increasing numbers of these cases.

    I didn't like the threat of paddles or various forms of dicipline used while in school but it kept a number of my friends and myself in check.



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    Poop little guy was a pillar of the community and will be missed by all. That mean old cop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOF View Post
    The magazine safety could have cost him his life. I don't like them.

    If the homes and schools don't start demanding better behaviour from their children we will see increasing numbers of these cases.

    I didn't like the threat of paddles or various forms of dicipline used while in school but it kept a number of my friends and myself in check.


    Dittos on that! Been there and seen and felt that same paddle. I think they should bring em back! I saw the error of my ways after just one visit

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    It's hard to feel sympathy for someone who got what they deserved.

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    I'll bet that the kid was a member of an...oppressed minority.
    That justifies his behavior, doesn't it?
    What was another...er...oppressed minority's slogan, back in the '60s? "Off the Pig!" Wasn't that it?

    What are the chances, do you think, that this kid was "recently transferred" to the school in question because of similar behavior in some other school, in the recent past?
    I'll bet on that one, too.

    Instead of discipline and consequences, his old school handed him a transfer.
    Let it be someone else's problem.
    Good solution, right?

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    That's our public school system today... If he doesn't respond to enough "time-outs", transfer your problem elsewhere.

    6' 250# 17-yr-old... with a bat... hitting a cop from behind.

    Sounds like not only a "good shoot", but a "good (law)suit" for the cop.

    JW

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffWard View Post
    Sounds like not only a "good shoot", but a "good (law)suit" for the cop.

    Yup, after Johnny got over his violence problems, he was going to be a pro baseball player, hence the bat. The family will sue for millions in lost wages, plus pain and anguish.

    Sadly we live in a society where everyone blames their problems and faults on someone else or the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    What are the chances, do you think, that this kid was "recently transferred" to the school in question because of similar behavior in some other school, in the recent past?I'll bet on that one, too.Good solution, right?
    I agree with you on that one to, My local school system has "Management" or "alternative" schools that they send kids to if they get to many suspensions for certain things(3 fights in one year or other similar numbers to different infractions) From what i've heard about these schools all of the kids have to wear slacks, dress shirts, and ties. They can't take any pens/pencils in with them, the teachers hand them out and count them when they are handed in. It wouldn't suprise me if the officer was in a school like this since there was a police officer that had been at that school for three years and felt he NEEDED his normal side arm, the non-leathal weapons they carry, AND a secondary fire arm. Plus there was a probation officer in the school that just happened to be a witness to the event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tnoisaw View Post
    Silvia Carrillo, whose daughter is a sophomore at Roosevelt High, said the shooting did not seem justified.

    "My son and my brother went to school here too, and nothing like this ever happened. I think this wasn't enough for him to kill the kid," she said.
    Say what!? A bat to the head is deadly force. The officer protected himself.
    And because her son and brother went there this couldn't happen.
    WAKE UP LADY. This kid assaulted and battered a person with a deadly weapon, and you think it "wasn't enough to kill this kid"
    man some people really burn my biscuits. I bet if it had been her daughter he hit in the head with a !@#*^$(*@$^!@( baseball bat she would be singing a differnt tune. But of course it was just "a cop" who was there trying to protect her daughter, so he should have laid down and been beaten to death so this thug could steal his firearms and then go on a shooting ramapge of the school. Then maybe it woud have been enough?!?!?
    Last edited by niadhf; 04-17-2008 at 09:42 PM. Reason: wasn't quite through ranting thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffWard View Post
    That's our public school system today... If he doesn't respond to enough "time-outs", transfer your problem elsewhere.
    That's the truth. Just this year I "moved up" from teaching elementary to middle school (6-8). The admin wants to keep kids in the seats at any cost so they get the state & fed $$$. The BS we are supposed to tolerate before sending a kid out on a referral is ridiculous. Juanito Punkass says "I don't wanna do this crap... F-it.. this is a bunch of bull%^$*!" And I'm, supposed to say, "Now Juanito, you know you're not supposed to use that kind of language at school," and he says "F@#$ you Mr. Teacher" and smacks another kid upside the head as he walks out the door.

    The next day he's back, disrupting class, mouthing off, and it starts all over again.


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