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    Quote Originally Posted by themayer78 View Post
    I never made any generalized statements about an entire group. I am only referring to the ones who see fit to kill those who believe different. I don't know how many people have been killed by what religion but none are more justified than any other. I am NOT ignorant and I do warmly and graciously accept people from other cultures and religions. I am not a Christian, or Mormon, or Muslim, or Jewish or any other. I have a hard time believing that any one religion is the right one and all those who believe different are damned to hell, but I certainly don't think anyone is ignorant for believing their God is the One True God. It's a belief which is every human beings right to have. Personally I believe the whole concept of religion is a social device that gives people a reason to live and for the most part a reason to be moral and civil to one another, was born from this need and helps explain some things we just don't understand. The only ones who I think are ignorant are those who think murder in the name of their God is justifiable. Oh yeah, and those who half-read posts and start calling people ignorant because they misread between the lines.

    Reread my post and take note that I refer to "violent criminals", NOT any particular group, religious or otherwise, donkey.
    Funny thing is I wasn't referring to you in my post. Yours was the first one on here that wasn't pointing toward all of Islam as being the evil. Yet you wanted to take my words as an attack...

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    DOH! Sorry man, I didn't WANT to take it as an attack It just followed my post and I thought it was pointed at me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themayer78
    MWhy don't we aggressively pursue and stop "these people" like we (we being the GG's of the world) did the Germans when we learned the holocaust was happening".
    Um, good point but we didn't know about the holocaust going into WWII.

    I agree that Islam is a cancer on the world...there is no such thing as a 'moderate muslim'. Try this, go to a Mosque (well, out side one, they will kill you if you see their bomb factory) and ask the first person entering, "Are you a Muslim?", "Are a moderate muslim?", "How can you be a muslim, and a so-called moderate, if the koran says you have a duty to kill all non-muslims?".

    We need to stamp out Islam like we stamped out small pox. They are both wasting disease with high mortality rates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvillechopper View Post
    It always amazes me how ignorant some people can be. You associate a few persons views on a religion with that of the entire group.
    I always love that argument...

    I guess it depends on your definition of what " a few" means.

    Let's review...

    definition of the word "Few" according to Websters =

    Main Entry: 3few Function:noun, plural in construction Date:before 12th century 1 : a small number of units or individuals <a few of them> 2 : a special limited number <the discriminating f
    Now... There are over 1,000,000,000 Muslims world wide... That's One Billion.

    It is estimated that over 1% are "radical/extremist", 1% of 1,000,000,000 equals 1,000,000.

    So let's just put this in easy to understand terms...

    There are over 1,000,000 muslims that want to kill me and you. That's over One Million!!!!

    That my friend is a standing army.

    Let's review even more and see what just 19 muslims can do...

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    Quote Originally Posted by js View Post
    I always love that argument...

    I guess it depends on your definition of what " a few" means.

    Let's review...

    definition of the word "Few" according to Websters =

    Now... There are over 1,000,000,000 Muslims world wide... That's One Billion.

    It is estimated that over 1% are "radical/extremist", 1% of 1,000,000,000 equals 1,000,000.

    So let's just put this in easy to understand terms...

    There are over 1,000,000 muslims that want to kill me and you. That's over One Million!!!!

    That my friend is a standing army.

    Let's review even more and see what just 19 muslims can do...

    That seems reasonable, so I'll go with your numbers. The question is this: Are the actions and beliefs of those million enough to condemn a billion people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PanaDP View Post
    That seems reasonable, so I'll go with your numbers. The question is this: Are the actions and beliefs of those million enough to condemn a billion people?

    Should we condemn the moderates...?

    Only if they stand by and do nothing.
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    TOF,

    The "fresh link" worked at 5:15 AM. At 5:30, the movie was removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dourdave View Post
    TOF,

    The "fresh link" worked at 5:15 AM. At 5:30, the movie was removed.

    Who controls the internet? Who controls information ?
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    Thanks, JS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarius View Post
    Um, good point but we didn't know about the holocaust going into WWII.

    I agree that Islam is a cancer on the world...there is no such thing as a 'moderate muslim'. Try this, go to a Mosque (well, out side one, they will kill you if you see their bomb factory) and ask the first person entering, "Are you a Muslim?", "Are a moderate muslim?", "How can you be a muslim, and a so-called moderate, if the koran says you have a duty to kill all non-muslims?".

    We need to stamp out Islam like we stamped out small pox. They are both wasting disease with high mortality rates.
    Posts like this just plain make me sad for my children's generation. With close-mindedness like this the human race is destined to fail more quickly than I thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by js View Post
    I always love that argument...

    I guess it depends on your definition of what " a few" means.

    Let's review...

    definition of the word "Few" according to Websters =

    Now... There are over 1,000,000,000 Muslims world wide... That's One Billion.

    It is estimated that over 1% are "radical/extremist", 1% of 1,000,000,000 equals 1,000,000.

    So let's just put this in easy to understand terms...

    There are over 1,000,000 muslims that want to kill me and you. That's over One Million!!!!

    That my friend is a standing army.

    Let's review even more and see what just 19 muslims can do...

    1 million against the number of people on the Earth is very few. Argue as you wish but you're talking about the entire group based on actions of less than 1%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvillechopper View Post
    1 million against the number of people on the Earth is very few. Argue as you wish but you're talking about the entire group based on actions of less than 1%.

    not arguing anything... just stating facts.

    I'm still waiting for the other 99% of muslims to actually do something about their internal "radical" problem.

    Personally, I'm not seeing to much of that right now.... as a matter of another fact, I'm seeing...and hearing the opposite from "moderate" muslims.

    www.jihadwatch.org or http://www.memritv.org/
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    Quote Originally Posted by cvillechopper View Post
    the human race is destined to fail more quickly than I thought.
    ever pay close attention to history...? What is happening today is no different from 5,000+ years ago. The only difference is there are more of us sharing the planet.
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    This guy sums it up... I couldn't have said it better myself.

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    Thumbs up

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    That was fantastic!!!

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    It really does not matter what the theology in question might be. Killing people simply because you view them as an enemy of your theology is nothing short of insane. It was wrong for the crusaders, it is wrong for these people.

    More people on this planet have been killed in the name of God (however one decides to view God) than all other possible reasons to take a life combined. This is a well known truth. But it does not make it right. If Christians were out doing these things today they would all be vilified in the media and in the hearts of anyone that would be seen as a possible target. The bottom line is that is what is going to happen to a religion that has in it's texts a reason for killing and a back door for making sure you can still get to that's religions good place.
    to say that one is ignorant for believing their faith is the one true faith is more ignorant then the person they are pointing at. It's a matter of FAITH The term faith pretty much puts the faithful in a spot that it has to be. Or the faith would not be true. Pretty stupid to say to a faithful person that they are stupid for being faithful.

    also, In the eyes of these people over in the mid east shooting at our young people do think that all Americans are war mongering evil people. They broadcast all the time and ask all of their faithful to kill any and all American Infidels. Are they stupid for being faithful? No. They are stupid for listening to people wanting to kill people in the name of their God. as stupid as any other group of people wanting to do the same. sure, All Muslims are not wanting to kill every American..But a lot are. And they are willing to kill their own to see their goal is made. and they are not good people. And they wonder why there are war mongering Americans looking to kill them off

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvillechopper View Post
    Posts like this just plain make me sad for my children's generation. With close-mindedness like this the human race is destined to fail more quickly than I thought.
    Itís the politically correct, open minded people that have got us into this mess by accepting the garbage that Islam puts out and allowing them to dictate what will be done by the majority at the will of a minority. Umm, Iíve heard this before. Oh ya, Federalist Paper No: 10.

    Political correctness is the cancer to society as well as Islam. Why defend a religion whoís goal is to murder you if you donít commit to their religion? Islam is the ONLY religion I know of that does this. Though many so called Christian leaders are sometimes a little out there I donít hear them calling for a holy jihad in the name of Jesus. I also do not hear of Christians or people of other religions, murdering people in the name of their religion. I havenít heard that from Buddhists or Mormons or whom ever. Itís only Muslims.

    If a child molester befriended my daughter I would not be ok with that because I should be nice to him because itís the politically correct thing to do. Hell no! Iíd watch him like a hawk and tell him to get the hell away from my child if he came close. And yes, putting a child molester in the same category as a Muslim was not a mistake. At least child molesters are not murdering thousands of people for their cause.

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    Oh..Liked the Brit vid..heh..well said

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    I'm gonna have to side with cvillechopper on this one...

    Quote Originally Posted by js View Post
    It is estimated that over 1% are "radical/extremist"
    With that logic, should we judge all catholics by the actions of the IRA and quotes taken from some Irish Priests?

    What scares me the most is these kind of generalizations were used to justify internment of americans of Japanese ancestry during WWII. Some of whom went on to fight in WWII for the US in Nisei units in Europe.

    19 terrorists were responsible for the World Trade Center bombing. The fact that they shared the muslim faith is as relevant as the fact that Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols were rednecks. Go after the people and organization that supports crime, be it Al Quaida, Taliban, Saudi Royal Family, Crips, Bloods, Mafia, etc.

    Believe what you want, freedom of religion, freedom of speech are good things. The moment you hurt others so you can feel better about yourself, you become the bad guy and should be put down. The excuse for the bad behavior is completely irrelevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by js View Post
    I'm still waiting for the other 99% of muslims to actually do something about their internal "radical" problem.
    How about an example of Pro-US muslims?

    Kurds are muslim. Kurdish Peshmurga militia fought alongside coalition forces againt Saddam in Gulf War II. Kurdistan-Iraq (n.Iraq) is pro-US . After centuries of persecution by Jordanians, Syrians and Iranians, the Kurds have been doing well in keeping insurgents in line in their area. In fact, less than 100 US troops are officially stationed in Kurd regions.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n2486679.shtml

    Shortly after Gulf War I, hoping to get US support, there was a popular uprising of Iraqi Kurds against Saddam. Saddam gassed them for their trouble.

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