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    War clubs

    Are they legal? I'm not talking about keeping one in my backseat or under my bed, but I've always wanted to make one. I like collecting and making all kinds of weapons.

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    Do you mean one of these?

    http://www.alltribes.com/Rustic-Vint...pr-212169.html

    I think as long as you kept it home you would be ok.
    After the election, who knows

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    No I meant one of these:


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    "It puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again."

    I dunno how I would explain to a cop how I hit a burglar with that.
    Neat, but seems a little premeditated to me.

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    I'm sure there are places, like California, where that would be illegal; check this

    http://budk.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_15+BKYK0413

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    Go for it, but make sure you have enough money put aside for a good attorney if you ever used it.

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    Hmmmm, maybe we have a budding SCA member here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    Hmmmm, maybe we have a budding SCA member here!

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    I think you nailed in on the head...I've always been interested in flails and maces and stuff.

    I don't ever plan to use a war club on someone. Just always wanted to make one. They're lethal, but a shotgun still works better for home defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivehourfrenzy View Post
    They're lethal, but a shotgun still works better for home defense.
    And even the most mall-ninja'd shotgun is probably easier to explain to a jury than something out of The Road Warrior.
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    Yeah, lol. I can't imagine trying to explain to a jury why I had a baseball bat with 4" screws coming out of the side, and why I drilled a home invader with it. I don't think blaming Gangs of New York and Gladiator would cut it in the courtroom.

    But as for the shotgun, my plan is to get the Supernova Tactical with rifle sights (no ghost rings), mag extension, properly sized recoil pad and comb pad, and a shell-holder (whatever they're called) mounted on the receiver for when I use it for small game hunting. If I do decide to hunt deer with it and use a scope/sight, I'll be getting a rifled slug barrel (you can only hunt with slugs in KY) and do the cantilever mount like you suggested. I don't think I understood it because I didn't realize you meant do the cantilever mount on a different barrel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivehourfrenzy View Post
    and a shell-holder (whatever they're called) mounted on the receiver for when I use it for small game hunting.
    A Sidesaddle for small game hunting? Are the squirrels going to mount a "rodent wave" attack on your position, forcing you into quick reloads before you're overrun by a battalion of the dreaded bushytails?

    This mall ninja stuff just kills me! Now I have to clean Gatorade off my keyboard!
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    I think I'd choose an aluminum/carbon fiber model... sans spikes.

    I'm guessing the spikes would hang up pretty bad in your opponent, and you're likely to get quicker follow-up shots in with the carbon fiber model... Like the old 45 vs 9mm arguement... And shot-placement is king here too. One to the head beats a number of body hits...

    The modern model would hold up much better in court. Just keep an old softball glove near by.

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    There's GOT to be something better for home defense other than a baseball bat with spikes in it!!! I better shut up before I really piss somebody off!

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    Having taken a plain wood baseball bat in the head in a fight, I can attest that they are effective weapons. I was unconscious for a bit, but managed to recover in time to finish the fight.

    If the bat had spikes, though, I'd be dead.
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    I was speaking more in terms of not being sued into poverty or incarcerated .........rather than lethality of the weapon. How 'bout (especially amongst us "gun guys") a shotgun.............pistol.....etc.? If I lived in such a place or was in that great of a financial situation that I had to rely on a baseball bat (nails or screws in it?) for home defense, I pretty sure I would MOVE! Then again, that's just me.

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    Mike,
    That explains a lot...
    Sorry, couldn't resist.
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    But remember, he did finish the fight I too, cannot resist. Probably the only way I would get hit with a baseball bat with nails in it...........would be in the ass as I was motivatin' outa' there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    Having taken a plain wood baseball bat in the head in a fight, I can attest that they are effective weapons. I was unconscious for a bit, but managed to recover in time to finish the fight.

    If the bat had spikes, though, I'd be dead.
    I've taken one in the head as well. It wasn't in a fight, but this idiot swinging like a maniac at a slow pitch softball let go of the bat and it clocked me pretty good right above my ear. It didn't knock me out or drop me, but that's probably due to the fact that it didn't have a person behind it following through. Still gave me a helluva headache.

    This thing's not for home defense. I have a bit of humanity to my character...and I'd rather take a few loads of 00 buckshot than get hit in the head and have my brain and face skewered by screws. But that's just me.

    Jeff, the carbon fiber or aluminum would not work. I will be drilling holes in it to mount the screws, and they would hold much better in wood. And I'm not about to take a Craftsman drill to a round piece of carbon fiber. Not to mention a CF bat would be extremely expensive. On a more practical note, the wood would be heavier than the CF or aluminum, and once accelerated to full swing, would have much more momentum than a lighter bat, thus causing further penetration of the screws in order to reach vital organs. This is on the condition that I have enough leverage and time to produce a full backswing, so I would stalk the BG with the bat fully cocked back (single action). I've never seen CF screws, and although CF is 5X lighter than steel and 2X stronger, it doesn't hold up well against shearing forces, and a screw penetrating a skull that has not been properly drilled and tapped for the thread pattern entails pretty strong shearing forces when it's essentially nailed in. Screws will be used though, and with tall threads. Taller threads won't allow them to penetrate as far, but should create a wider permanent cavity. So in conclusion, the wooden bat with steel screws should provide superior terminal ballistics against a BG when compared to CF or aluminum.

    Mike...I would rather carry the shells on the gun than in my pocket. I don't like carrying stuff in my pocket...weird pet peeve, but whatev. Plus, in KY when hunting with a shotgun, the mag has to be plugged to hold a maximum of two in the mag and one in the chamber. The daily take limit on squirrels is six, so I'll need more shells than I can keep inside the gun.

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    I can just see the testimony.

    "Well your honor, I chose to ignore the perfectly good .40 cal Walther tatooed to my lower gut to mace the guy. Um... Not like with the chemical mace, but with a real mace... Yes your honor, I made it myself in woodshop. Much better terminal ballistics than an aluminum bat."

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