Results 1 to 13 of 13
  1. #1
    James NM's Avatar
    James NM is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    New Mexico
    Posts
    1,091

    Front Cocking Serrations???

    As a general rule, it seems front cocking serrations are more likely to be found on more expensive 1911's. However, some really nice (read expensive) 1911's make it a point not to have front serrations. I also see some knowledgeable 1911 owners state there preference to not have the front serrations. I know some of the advantages of having front cocking serrations (easier press checks, looks).

    So the question is: What is the advantage of NOT having front cocking serrations?

  2. Ads
  3. #2
    milquetoast is offline Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    535
    One of the main complaints about front cocking serrations is that they have sharp corners, so they chew up the insides of your nice, expensive leather holsters.

  4. #3
    JeffWard's Avatar
    JeffWard is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    St Pete Beach, FL
    Posts
    1,932
    Appearance.

    Period

  5. #4
    Mike Barham's Avatar
    Mike Barham is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Arizona, baby!
    Posts
    5,081
    As milquetoast mentioned, they eat up leather holsters. They're not just for appearance, though. They have some function on pistols with optical sights (IPSC, etc.), so the shooter can reach under the slide and still get a firm purchase. I think they are pointless on a pistol with iron sights, though. I've never had a problem press checking a pistol without them.
    Employed by Galco Gunleather - www.galcogunleather.com / Veteran OEF VIII

    Donate to the Christian and Stephanie Nielson Recovery fund: http://www.nierecovery.com/.

    All opinions, particularly those involving politics and Glocks, are mine and not Galco's.

  6. #5
    spacedoggy's Avatar
    spacedoggy is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Planet Zeon just outside of Tyler Texas
    Posts
    1,220
    Just to show you how much I know- What is and where is the front cocking serrations??? Is it only on 1911's? I looked it up and found this glock with the front serrstions
    Last edited by spacedoggy; 10-02-2007 at 10:26 PM.

  7. #6
    Mike Barham's Avatar
    Mike Barham is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Arizona, baby!
    Posts
    5,081
    Mainly you see it on 1911s, like this one: http://www.arizonaresponsesystems.co...thpistol01.jpg. But it can happen to any poor pistol that ends up in a custom shop.

    When I took my first course in the "Modern Technique," the instructor taught an overhand grasp of the slide, forward of the ejection port. This was before the forward serrations were common. No one in class had problems running their pistols without the serrations.

    Many instructors are getting away from that technique, anyway, and some never liked it.
    Employed by Galco Gunleather - www.galcogunleather.com / Veteran OEF VIII

    Donate to the Christian and Stephanie Nielson Recovery fund: http://www.nierecovery.com/.

    All opinions, particularly those involving politics and Glocks, are mine and not Galco's.

  8. #7
    James NM's Avatar
    James NM is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    New Mexico
    Posts
    1,091
    So the consensus is: The main reason someone wouldn't want front cocking serrations is to prevent damage to their leather holsters?

    Huh. Never would of thunk of that.

  9. #8
    spacedoggy's Avatar
    spacedoggy is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Planet Zeon just outside of Tyler Texas
    Posts
    1,220
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    When I took my first course in the "Modern Technique," the instructor taught an overhand grasp of the slide, forward of the ejection port.
    Mike does this technique make you turn the pistol to the side? or is it taught with an emphases on the firearm pointed down range?

    When watching the gun shows I tivo on TV there is this hipper guy who is really fast on the draw can't remember his name, I think he is sponsored by Blackhawk because I see the big Blackhawk RV behind him. I think I see him clear his weapon with two fingers facing sideways. Always wondered about that.

  10. #9
    Old Padawan's Avatar
    Old Padawan is offline Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Phoenix AZ
    Posts
    818
    Quote Originally Posted by James NM View Post
    So the consensus is: The main reason someone wouldn't want front cocking serrations is to prevent damage to their leather holsters?
    I donít think thatís the point. I think the focal point is donít get them if you donít need them, and they will chew up your holster.
    I think they may be handy during training when you have bee handling a gun for six hours and are doing you 800 the press check. Still not required and aching, tired, sweaty hands are an excellent training point.
    They are minimally functional. They may look cool. That isnít bad, looking cool is a good reason to own them. My mentor disagrees, but I have said before that man has been decorating his weapon since he tied feathers to sticks
    "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." -Mark Twain

  11. #10
    spacedoggy's Avatar
    spacedoggy is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Planet Zeon just outside of Tyler Texas
    Posts
    1,220
    This is an outofthebox smith


  12. #11
    Mike Barham's Avatar
    Mike Barham is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Arizona, baby!
    Posts
    5,081
    Quote Originally Posted by spacedoggy View Post
    Mike does this technique make you turn the pistol to the side? or is it taught with an emphases on the firearm pointed down range?
    Picture it like so:

    * pistol held in strong hand firing grip (pointed downrange)
    * support hand makes a upside-down "U" shape
    * support hand comes in from the top (not front) and grasps the slide forward of the ejection port
    * grip firmly between support hand palm and fingers and run the slide

    I have seen some instructors who prefer the "slingshot" technique, and some (especially those of the "Israeli school") advocate turning the pistol 90 degrees.

    I can take some pics of these techniques if these descriptions suck.

    When watching the gun shows I tivo on TV there is this hipper guy who is really fast on the draw can't remember his name, I think he is sponsored by Blackhawk because I see the big Blackhawk RV behind him. I think I see him clear his weapon with two fingers facing sideways. Always wondered about that.
    Fastest draw I've seen is Bob Munden, who can draw faster than my eyes can see.
    Employed by Galco Gunleather - www.galcogunleather.com / Veteran OEF VIII

    Donate to the Christian and Stephanie Nielson Recovery fund: http://www.nierecovery.com/.

    All opinions, particularly those involving politics and Glocks, are mine and not Galco's.

  13. #12
    spacedoggy's Avatar
    spacedoggy is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Planet Zeon just outside of Tyler Texas
    Posts
    1,220
    I got it no pics needed. The guy I was talking about is Todd Jarrett
    http://www.shootingusa.com/PRO_TIPS/...d_jarrett.html

    I know of Bob Munden. He does some trick shooting also. But little Joe has always been my boyhood hero.

  14. #13
    Mike Barham's Avatar
    Mike Barham is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Arizona, baby!
    Posts
    5,081
    Quote Originally Posted by spacedoggy View Post
    I got it no pics needed. The guy I was talking about is Todd Jarrett
    http://www.shootingusa.com/PRO_TIPS/...d_jarrett.html
    Ah, yes. I've seen Todd Jarrett perform at SHOT Show. The guy is simply amazing. He gives lots of good tips at his performances, and is also a super-friendly and down-to-earth guy.
    Employed by Galco Gunleather - www.galcogunleather.com / Veteran OEF VIII

    Donate to the Christian and Stephanie Nielson Recovery fund: http://www.nierecovery.com/.

    All opinions, particularly those involving politics and Glocks, are mine and not Galco's.

Ads

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Search tags for this page

1911 front cocking serrations
,

forward cocking serrations

,

front cocking serrations

,
front cocking serrations 1911
,
glock front cocking serrations
,
purpose of front cocking serrations
,
what are forward cocking serrations
,
what are front cocking serrations
,
what is forward cocking serrations
,
what is forward serrations
,
what is front cocking serrations
,
what is serrstion in a gun
Click on a term to search for related topics.