Is he dead set on a new gun?
I'd suggest that he buy a good used one for $4-500 and then add $2-300 in quality parts to get what he wants. I've built 7 or 8 like that and I get exactly what I want for a good price.
Range. He has his glocks for duty and conceal.
I was lookin through the CDNN tryin to find a price on em and they have the Springfield .45 Stainless Target Loaded Fullsize for $799.99 shipped. I could not find that gun in particular on their web site but looks like the standard fullsize with target sites. Is this a good price? I am sure he would not mind payin $20 more for a transfer fee
I have owned several Springfields over the years. But, the problem I have seen with them in the past few years is that many of them have terrible triggers out of the box - the Loaded and Mil Spec and GI models. Not all of them - but many. Ya gotta really cherry pick the best one of the lot to find one w/o a lot of play in the trigger. Just my 2 cents...
Isn't "best" really subjective? Many would say the original M1911A1 configuration is the best. That can price well under $800. Then again I've never seen the attraction to pseudo-customs. I'd have to agree with 2400 on building a real custom if that's what he wants.
If I were in the markey I would be all over this New Kimber Custom II $659.00. Why? I have a Kimber Custom Compact that runs perfectly and I have never put a dime in it other than grips. This little 1911 will shoot with the big boys all day long. I also own Springers and I have impressed with them. My last thought is if it is for a range gun and your friend has large hands a Para P14 might do the trick. Regards, Richard
I've had a Kimber before, and I prefer the models w/ the night sights. I think its worth it over the all black sights that the base KImbers come with. So, that raises the price a little.
Shipwreck, i am sure it is a case of individual eyesight. My aging eyes now prefer plain black sights whereas I lked white dot when I was younger. Regards, Richard
Well, I guess so. I have bad eyes too, however. And, when I shoot at my indoor range, I cannot do well if I don't have a sight with big bright white dots. Or if a night sights, with bright white circles around them. I really like the night sights that they put on the kimber.
I've prev had a Springfield with night sights - and I hate the ones they use. Not white around the tritium. Just a tiny tritium dot, and a silver metal ring around it that one can barely see. In an indoor range, they were about as useful as an all black sight. It doesn't work for me.
Even outsoor, I like clear sights. Most of the service guns (HK, Beretta, Glock, Walther, etc) have great white dot sights (HK has some monster circles ). I prefer them.
The S&W 1911s come with the best plain white dot sights I have seen stock compared to any other 1911 U buy on the shelf. Kimber doesn't sell guns with white dots (only night sights or black) and Springfield's Novak white dot sight and Novak night sights are not that great (their Novak night sights are not the nice Trijicon ones, unless U buy the Professional model)
I noticed nobody here has mentioned the new taurus 1911's i havent shot one but i think they feel good. Does anybody here have any experience with the. I have seen them for under 500.
Personally im hard core Colt. I saw the link for 750 NIB and if i was looking for a new 1911 i dont think you will get any better for under 800 on a new gun.
Months ago, I posted a message about Colt - lately, I've found the quality control to REALLY suck on their base models. They may be base, but they are still the same cost as some of the other brands' med models.
I saw several issues with a Colt that I was thinking of buying. Maybe their $1k guns are better, but that's still not a way to win customers...
I think Colts were better in the past than they are now.
Months ago, I posted a message about Colt - lately, I've found the quality control to REALLY suck on their base models. They may be base, but they are still the same cost as some of the other brands' med models.
I saw several issues with a Colt that I was thinking of buying. Maybe their $1k guns are better, but that's still not a way to win customers...
I think Colts were better in the past than they are now.
+1 Ship. their quality con trol has gone downhill. to spend 800 on a colt, and still have to work the kinks out is ridiculous. I still prefer the old series 70 govt. there are none better, IMO.
Tell him to get a Colt and don't look back.I think the Colts that are made now are the best they have ever been.I have not seen any of the problems with Colts that I have seen posted on the internet.I guess I have just been lucky.
I noticed nobody here has mentioned the new taurus 1911's i havent shot one but i think they feel good. Does anybody here have any experience with them.
I just bought one. I haven't put enough rounds through it to comment on it's reliability, but it feels and shoots great. I have been looking for a poor man's bullseye gun and I think I found it. About the only thing I can think of that it needs is a Bomar or similar rear sight.
Tom
I'm a forever Ruger fan so I fully expect their new 1911 will be a strong contender for the "best" in the mid-priced
range, and probably even among more expensive products. The suggested retail is $799, I don't know how
available they are yet, or what local prices might be. There's a positive review at Gunblast.com listed as Ruger SR1911 45 ACP Semi-Auto Pistol and I'm looking forward to adding this one to my armory.
For a range gun under $800, it's tough to beat the Springfield Range Officer.
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