For you 1911 EDCers
Why do you carry the 1911, what version do you carry, and why not something that offers more rounds per magazine?
I carried it till I found something I shot better. Rounds cound....round count. As for round count it either won't matter or it will matter a whole he'll of a lot. A large majority of incidents don't require 10+ sots.
I teeter on the fence of this issue. I still think more rounds in the gun is better and will trump having a spare mag available if the need for more shots is there. But if you can shoot a 1911 better than x, I would day the 1911 is a better choice for you.
I've carried several 1911s. I tend to prefer 5" barred models with a Bob - tail or round-butt grip.
I have been familiar with the feel and characteristics of a 1911 for 50 years. When I became a civilian in 1977, I thought that almost any personal defense weapon was already to give me the feeling of not being defenseless. From 1977 on I carried many different EDC, both in style and caliber. Also many ways in which to carry that ect. Over the years, I have honed my EDC from what weapon to use with my dress attire, to What I feel will give me the best advantage in comfort and knock down power.
Personal defense is about a mugging, and robbery or a personal attack. It not about a gun battle shoot out. I have plenty of experience in gun battles. A personal attack usually takes place one on one, or two on one. I do not feel the need to carry 15 rounds in a double stack weapon. The chances of being involved in a threat are extremely low. The very fact that you are carrying, gives you a very strategic advantage... No not the gun... but your presence ( how you walk, what body language you give off, the confidence in your gait , and you eye contact ) Some one looking for a victim will look for the weak, the introverted, the one with eyes down, and the quick step, as oppose to the confident gait.
After my surgery, I felt that I would not be able to fight off a threat who was able to get their hands on me. At 70 years of age, I found it import that my age puts me into a category that bag guys like, Senior citizens... So to answer this question, I went back to a single stack 1911, in the form of Kimber Ultra carry with the persona defense package. 45 ACP. This included Meprolight night sights, and Crimson Laser grips, and a " Carry Melt " design. I feel more confident with a big caliper 45, then a 9mm or 40. I've personally used this caliper in ball ammunition, while in combat, and don't have to guess if it will get the job done. With a personal defense round, this weapon is even a more formidable force against a threat. I also carry a second mag. the chances of me ( a confident civilian senior ) needing a personal defense weapon is in the neighborhood of 1 in 250,000. The chances of me getting into a personal attack and needed in second magazine, would be in the 1 in 500,000 range. Law enforcement needs much higher quantity, because there threats come in all colors and shapes.
I could go on about single stack and pocket carry, and the readiness that a single stack and pocket carry gives me.. So in closing, I'm totally happy with my Kimber Ultra carry in 45 ACP, because it gives me the confidence I question in 9mm or 380 , or 40. My J frame 357 mag is also a very formidable weapon , but not as comfortable to carry or holds enough rounds to be totally confident.
I, too, have been familiar with the 1911 platform for an awfully long time—so far, about 40 years at least.
I've carried a full-size 1911, when it was all that I had to carry. But I found it difficult to conceal, not to mention heavy.
When I finally could afford to buy a "shortie," I made the error of getting an all-steel version. It, too, was too heavy for comfortable continuous carry.
Then I tried a pocket-size .45, found that my skill-level was more than adequate to use it well, and remained pleased with it for about 15 years.
But then arthritis set in, and the small .45 became too much of a, well, handful. The problem was more its stiff trigger than its recoil.
So I've completely abandoned the .45 cartridge and the 1911 platform, and I carry a medium-size Colt's .380 instead.
To tell the truth, I used to think more rounds were needed and carried a Browning Hi Power. Great firearm, but too bulky for carrying and then went to thinking I don't need the round count, but concealed carry is often a trade off.
Steve is right about all steal 45's but I still carry my detonics most of the time without any thought.
I've carried revolvers and autos, but I always seem to end up back to a 1911. I still carry a Commander but if I ever get my hands on an HK45c I may get one, I'm sure in the next decade the weight of the 1911 will get start to get uncomfortable.
For every day civilian carry I don't worry about only having 8 rounds before a reload, but I shot a lot of combat matches and can reload quickly. If I expect trouble I'll be relying on a long gun with my USPf 45 and 12rd mags as backup.
I still have my Beretta 92 but I'm just not a big fan of the 9mm. In a SHTF scenario I would carry it in the shoulder rig because I'd have 45rds on me and another 105rds loaded in a pack.
heavy? 25 oz is not very heavy.
Compared to a J frame 357 mag
I missed something, what's 25oz?
My Kimber 1911 45 ACP ultra carry combat defense package weighs 25 ounces.
Originally Posted by rex
An ounce (abbreviated oz; apothecary symbol: ℥) is usually the international avoirdupois ounce as used in the United States customary and British imperial ...
Fluid ounce -
I have carried a 1911a1 since Dec. 1969, It brought me thru the dance. I know it inside out. It feels right, carries well, and I hit what I point at or aim at.
I was hoping to hear from you, Tony. Do you carry any back up mags? Also, how do you carry your 1911? I presume it is the full size 5" barrel version? What brand?
The Kimber, gotcha. I just backed up a few posts and didn't see a weight mentioned.
Originally Posted by EvilTwin
I thought about building a LW frame for my Commander but I'm starting to believe the HK's are an improved 1911, design is different but it's a brute of a gun and operates basically the same.
I carry several different ways depending what I am doing, in general I carry either OWB or IWB at appox. 3:30 with light cover. When I know I will spend most of the day behind the wheel or at a desk I will carry crossdraw. As for spare mags. usually 1 spare opposite side from my pistol now if going to a city or into the woods for a long time I carry 2 spare mags. In the Winter time I do have a shoulder holster, more to protect the pistol from the weather. Yes my 1911a1 is a full size.
I forgot to say what brand. At present I am carrying a RIA GI. model I retired carrying my Colts because I don't want one to turn up missing from a property room if the need ever arose to use it. It did happen to a friend and He carried a colt that was made in 1927 that had been his grand fathers.
WOW, would hate to lose a pistol like that 1927. Thanks for the input. What do you think of the Rock Island?
I trust the RIA. I only made 1 change, I like a lite trigger pull so I got it down to 4 lb. pull. Finger always indexes until it is show time. I did not use the term like because there are several out there that I liked but would never carry.
Trust trumps like all day.
I carried a 1911 for 20 years then I moved to the plastic guns up to last week when I broke out the 1911 again and found I shot it better than my Smith's or Glock's. I carry a full size Wilson X-tac and G-Code Incog holster. If I need more, I fight my way to the carbine.
My Kimber 45 ACP has a 3.6 lb. trigger pull. weighs 25 oz.
Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1
I am constitutionally opposed to carrying a single-action semi-auto in my pocket.
I suppose that it's the result of a prejudice, rather than of a completely rational decision.
I've experienced occasional safety-lever "wipe offs" (or "jiggle offs") in the past, even with a couple of relatively well-designed belt holsters.
Thus I am unwilling to chance something similar with a gun carried in my pocket.
My femoral artery, as well as my reproductive equipment, is in just too close a proximity to allow me peace of mind.
For me, a pocket gun needs to be double-action-only, with a relatively heavy trigger action.
Your feelings, of course, may differ.
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