Printable View
I have decided to enter the 1911 world. I would like a Springfield loaded or Mil spec. There are none. I then lowered my sights on a RIA tactical. there are none. I then decided to give the Ruger SR1911 a try there are none. But at one of my wholesalers there are over 200 Remingtons available. Please educate a 1911 newbie please on why there are so many of these available. I guess my question would also be why would you not buy a Remington over a RIA?
Thanks
Buds Gun Shop...............
What does that mean? or have to do with all of the available Remington R1's ?Quote:
Originally Posted by berettabone
They carry the firearms that you stated there were none of.........get up on the wrong side of the bed? Doesn't have anything to do with R1"s.
I've heard the R1s were built quite nice,but I haven't handled one or even seen one.Haven't gun shopped in a while though.
Anyway,a batch of frames early on were miscut,and I haven't heard of any recalls.The only case I know of for a return to the factory resulted in 2 small things being fixed but the improper cut was blown off.This cut will end up shearing the lower locking lugs off the barrel eventually but nobody has done it yet.I'm figuring by 10K ball rounds they will be cracked but it's still to be seen.There are only so many out there because I have seen properly cut frames,but you have to move the barrel out of the way to tell and alot of shops won't let you dig into a gun.Either word spread more than I though or their price was out of line.
Ah, rex, still repeating things you heard?
Last time you mentioned this, you didn't have any information about it.
What's changed?
Actually I did have info and pics,you just didn't look and assumed.Your laziness doesn't mean it doesn't exist,sorry.
I guess I did get up on the wrong side. However carring firearm brand and actually haveing them instock are two different things. Except for a RIA base model they do not have any tacticals in .45 or any Springfield or Rugers. And it does not sound like they will have any in the near future. So I am getting frustrated in not being able to buy a 1911.Quote:
Originally Posted by berettabone
Have you look at the american classic 2 by metro arms they have a lot of nice features for the money they run from 500 to 600 dollers they did have one at buds gun shop in hard crome to find out about them go to bersa web sight click on the picture with the 1911 on it & you can read all about them the one I have it is a very nice gun it is in hard crome it has a match grade barrel & barrel bushing a match grade slide to frame fit novack rear & dovetail front 3 dot sight beavertail grip safety a lot of feature you would find on a gun costing twice as much to find the gun at buds gun shop click on the bersa eagle inports icon to see if they have any in stock they did when I posted this good luck
They DO have the RIA 1911A-2 .45 mil spec for $446...looked this morning.....and you can put a Springfield on reserve....better than a stick in the eye......
Try CALLING CDNN, you have to call them, they don't advertise guns on their websites but they have some of the best inventory and prices on Springfield 1911s that I've found.Quote:
Originally Posted by john4645
CDNN Sports, Inc.
P.O. Box 6514 • Abilene, TX 79608
800-588-9500 • FAX 325-695-4898
sales@cdnnsports.com
I actually own one of these guns. The cut is there. "Miscut" might be open to interpretation. It Is a clean factory cut that appears to have been part of the original "1911R1" design. It was not part of the John Moses Browning design. My gun looks good and shoots good. I'll be happy as long as it doesn't break.Quote:
This cut will end up shearing the lower locking lugs off the barrel eventually but nobody has done it yet.I'm figuring by 10K ball rounds they will be cracked but it's still to be seen.
It appears that Ruger and others have trouble keeping up with demand. Remington doesn't seem to have that problem at the moment.
I remember you saying you had one,yours is the 6th I know of.It was an intentional cut but I have no idea why they would have done it with a Colt spec barrel.Nothing will probably happen to the frame,the lower lug block will crack at the chamber when it's had enough of the leverage.They may have gotten away from SS and made them from CS to aid longevity to them,I don't know.I'm really just following these things for my own curiosity,the 2 guns I did see didn't have any measurements taken but it appeared to completely eliminate the proper barrel stop.At first I thought they evercut the original bevel,but that wouldn't require a bit change to as they did.
But you're still talking about other people's guns, right, rex?
Here is my two cents I would not pay that much for a Gun that had a mil spec slide to frame fit I look at one the other day it was what they called there enhanced version the slide to frame fit was mil spec & they wanted 800 dollers for it a little more money you can buy a Springfield Armory Loaded that has a tight slide to frame fit they call that enhanced I don't think that just by putting a beavertail grip safety on it novack sights & extended thumb safety is worth 800 dollers unless it has a tight slide to frame fit I mean I can buy a Regent Arms R 200 1911 stainless that has all that & has a mil spec slide to frame fit for 500 to 600 dollers at a gun shop so it not worth getting burned when there are better quality 1911 in the 800 to 900 price range
Well I ordered a RIA (armscor) mill spec. 395.66$ to my door. Could not take waiting anymore for a Springfield. Shot one two weeks ago and saw alot of good reviews. I think it will be a good entry 1911.
Yep,I'm curious about this and if I end up with an answer fine,if not,who cares?What I did do is make a few people aware of a spot to keep an eye on.What I don't understand is what reason you could have to even care since it has nothing to do with you.Let it go man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jammersix
Good choice my first 45 was a mill spec as well it a good 1st 45 to learn how to shoot & field strip & clean & stuff shoot the heck out of it save up the money & wait until a Springfield Armory comes along that you want & then trade yours in on or keep it for a secound gun the choice is yours have fun shooting it :smt071
If you were just curious, you'd be asking questions, not making statements.
What you're doing is repeating rumors.
Not sure I'd call it "rumor" if there are tangible guns that display this potential issue. Until there's an actual problem, it's all speculation. Personally I think there's a little too much hand wringing over the matter for something that as far as I know hasn't been an issue yet, but it's still something that should be watched for. Either way it will be interesting to see how things pan out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jammersix
Yes I have asked questions,yes I have said statements,and a renowned top 1911 gunsmith/machinist has commented on this flaw.As it is now there are 6 known examples of these shipped out by Remington,with pictures there Skippy.I really don't know what your problem is but your ignorance has gotten old,whatever inadequacies you have you really need to seek help for.Good bye and grow up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jammersix
I agree,my main purpose was to let people know that there are a few of these floating around,for whatever reason it happened.One was returned to Rem and they basically ignored the cut but fixed 2 minor problems.That makes me believe somewhere somebody oopsed and they slid them through,trying to ignore the few that got out before being corrected.Since this has been a year roughly I don't believe there will be any answer,but it would be nice that people know to look for this if buying one.So far there has been no failure from this cut I have heard of,but then again alot of people don't shoot 1K rounds a month and may take years to do that.At that pace they probably will never see a failure in their use.That's cool,but it would suck to buy one used that was shot alot and it breaks finally on the new owner.Alot of us have gotten a used lemon and it sucks,it's nice if you can prevent one from happening to someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by VAMarine
Yup, exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by VAMarine
I merely roll my eyes at folks who speculate.
But I don't like people who repeat speculation, and I have no respect at all for people who repeat speculation as if it were fact, with nothing to add.
Hey Jammersix hey Rex why don't you two just meet somewhere get a pair of boxing gloves & go at I mean let face it Rex he likes Remington 1911 & you don't if he has one & it breakes on him after 10000 rounds then you can say I told you so until then you both need to let it go I mean if we can't be civilsed towards one another on here then there no sense of being on here I mean I made some people mad on here & apologised for being rude you two need to apologise & let it go & if I made you both mad at me I'm sorry I don't like to see people fight & wind up hating one another :boxing::smt014:smt109
Since this is my thread I don't mind hijacking it from the initial question on why there are so many remingtons and limited amount of 1911 at wholesalers - The RIA A1 showed up today. I absolutely love it. 100 rounds through it no issues. I am glad i did not wait anymore. Now I will just start saving again for that next level 1911, or something else.