I haven't seen this poll yet, so what is your favorite High End out of the box 1911
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I haven't seen this poll yet, so what is your favorite High End out of the box 1911
Looking at the entire lines of those listed, I'd probably have to go Wilson, I've got Baers, a Wilson and a Nighthawk.
Have not yet had a Brown but plan on getting one sooner or later. I like Wilson's line-up and armor-tuff finish, Nighthawk is an off-shoot of Wilson, they said they could make a better gun for less, but they cost about the same or more. I think the Nighthawks are "prettier" than Wilsons, and I liked the fact that no matter what options I threw at the guy @ Nighthawk he just said "ok, we can do it"
As for Baers, most of their guns are blued, for a range gun or competition gun this is fine, but for carry I like something more corrosion resistant, both my Baers are DuPont S coated but that stuff aint' cheap, they are also very, very, tight when new, some are hard to cycle the slide one and most will require a bushing wrench. I bought both of mine used and they've been well broken in and perform flawlessly despite the tight tolerances (no sandy environment shooting for me) and they are tack drivers. My SRP needs a bushing wrench to take the gun down, my TRS does not.
Now as I said, that was looking at the entire line of those makers.
Each maker has models that are more preferred than others. Most Baers are a little less costly than the others listed, but are still fantastic guns, Browns have this understated classy look while Wilson and Nighthawk can tend to be a little over done. Baer doesn't offer a factory bobtail while the other three do. Nighthawks T3 is probably the finest "CCO" model available...
Either way you vote (or buy) it's hard to go wrong.
Purchased a LB AR last year,
fit and finish is perfect ( exactly what was advertised and expected )
LB is high end $$ and also high end product...
would like to have a 1911 from them..
I myself went with the Wilson Combat. I damn sure would have to have Santa "give" me one, because if I went out and spent the money on what one cost, my wife would be hanging my "jingle bells" from the Christmas tree this year.:buttkick:
I like Springfield Custom the best - They are on par with the choices listed above (a FULL custom build, not modification of an existing production gun)
When my favorite custom gun manufacturer, gunsmith Charles A. Ries, died a few years ago, the world lost an artist.
BTW: "Custom" and "out of the box" are antithetical. If it's custom-made, it doesn't come "out of a box."
What if they ship it to you in a box?:anim_lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1
I have not ever shot any of the guns in question, I have only held the Nighthawk T3. WOW I liked it when I held it so my vote went to the only gun I have had experiance with. Every time I see a Wilson Combat pistol I want one. Either in a magazine or in a real life. When I see one in real life I don't even ask to hold it because I am weak when it come to resisting what I want.
Steve.....your point on custom vs. out of the box is very true. I have similar conversations with motorcycle friends often.
RCG
I have always believed in having a close, very friendly relationship with the gunsmith who does custom work for me. When it's done, I'll go to his place and pick it up in person.Quote:
Originally Posted by VAMarine
Besides, Chuck made a really good cup of tea, and even had honey for me to put into it. Now, how could I pass that up? :drooling:
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+ 1 Steve M1911A1 custom is just that. Custom made or modified not just a high end production model with all the bells and buzzers. My own is a Rose 1911 longslide colt for bullseye match.
Kimber if you please.
Kimber of course
Those are far, far from "custom" (see the subject line) or even "semi custom" http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g3...y/facepalm.gif
Wilson.
I inherited my father's WC (1989) Super Grade. When I called customer service with an inquiry (no problem with the pistol), it was made clear that I was now part of the Wilson Combat family and that the pistol was covered pretty much forever, and would continue to be when I eventually give it to my son. That's good CS/warranty by any standard.
Les Baer FTW.
Steve: you may be right, however, my Wilson Combat pistols are probably as close to true custom as I am likely to get. Even with my ratty handloads [never load a case over 20 times] stoked with too much 231, neither has ever jammed. The full sized CQB built for me in 1999 with over 10,000 rounds thru it will still put 8 shots into 1" at 25 yards. My CQB Compact built for me in 2010 is my daily companion. These are guns that I treasure.
Anyone who puts down the coin for any of the listed guns is celebrating America's pistol, made by Americans, for Americans, the best way they can. Sure a true custom gunsmith has some atvantages. But, Wilson Combat, Brown, Baer, and Nighthawk allow us grunts to reach for a star.
I plan on asking Santa for a Wilson every year until I get one. But if he brought me a Brown, Baer, or Nighthawk, I wouldn't complain.
Of those listed in the poll I voted WC, Though my EDC is a SA Professional.
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If Santa brought me any of those, I would sell it without firing it, and replace it with two milspecs.
You should add a choice of "none of the above".
Since one of you was rude enough to drag politics into a non-political thread, I'll answer that I prefer weapons made overseas, and avoid American made weapons.
Firepower without the entitlement surcharge.
SGB;
Who made that very nicely designed, high-ride holster?
Nighthawk..
Pretty sure he did. A very nice rig indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1
Hey Marine Les Baer does make crome plated 1911 as well that crome plating is pretty tough I've seen cars from the 70s with crome bumpers & they still look new & they been out in the weather for 40 + years but I'm like you I would want a 1911 with a little play in the slide to frame fit not like a mil spec but one with a little play.
Can I put a write-in vote for Jack Weigand? I know he doesn't build them anymore, but man were they sweet! A buddy of mine just got that new barrel fitting fixture that Weigand designed, great stuff.
Hard chrome is not the same as the chrome plating on cars. But yes, hard chrome is one of the most wear resistant finishes. It is more rust proof than some finishes. But, there are microscopic cracks in hard chrome that can vary from specimen to specimen. That's why one hard chromed gun can rust, and two others may not. I have seen many a rusted carry gun that was hard chromed. But once again - it just depends on the circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by 45
For OWB carry, I'd have no trouble with a hard chromed gun. I carried a P99 compact for several years - The slide had been hard chromed, and it showed ZERO wear after years of daily holstering in a leather holster. However, for IWB carry, I personally wouldn't use hard chrome. If it does rust - the only way to fix it is to remove the plating and replate it