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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Boomer View Post
    With a Wilson extra heavy duty firing pin spring we could not get a AD no matter how hard we hit it and knocked off half cock. Just not enough inertia to pop a primer!

    AD's are caused they just don't happen. Here read the original 1911/1911a1 manual.

    http://www.sightm1911.com/manual/manual.htm

    I'm not talking about a drop test, I'm talking about some fool letting go of the hammer while decocking and touching one off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VAMarine View Post
    I'm not talking about a drop test, I'm talking about some fool letting go of the hammer while decocking and touching one off.
    Franky Speaking that can happen with any firearm. The best safety is the one between your ears! There were several left handed guys that carried half cocked with a pull stretched firing pin spring in Nam with me. They would pull the spring to about a half inch longer. We had to get by with what we had. You would be amazed what a good water repellent that Esquire Paste Shoe Polish is. Try it on a blued gun. It will make it look purrrrtty too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Boomer View Post
    Franky Speaking that can happen with any firearm. The best safety is the one between your ears! There were several left handed guys that carried half cocked with a pull stretched firing pin spring in Nam with me. They would pull the spring to about a half inch longer. We had to get by with what we had. You would be amazed what a good water repellent that Esquire Paste Shoe Polish is. Try it on a blued gun. It will make it look purrrrtty too.
    Agreed, I'm sure it's been done. Just like when on guard duty we were supposed to be condition 3, right?

    All I'm saying is that the likelihood of touching a round increases exponentially by lowering the hammer on a a loaded 1911. As far as lefties are concerned, just go get an ambi. safety.

    Given the choices, I'd rather have a condition 3 1911 on my side than a condition 2, but will take condition 1 over all others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VAMarine View Post
    Agreed, I'm sure it's been done. Just like when on guard duty we were supposed to be condition 3, right?

    All I'm saying is that the likelihood of touching a round increases exponentially by lowering the hammer on a a loaded 1911. As far as lefties are concerned, just go get an ambi. safety.

    Given the choices, I'd rather have a condition 3 1911 on my side than a condition 2, but will take condition 1 over all others.
    Point Taken I like my Glock 36 with a 3.5 trigger!

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    It all about being comfortable with your handgun, understanding how the safety features work and training on a regular basisThe mode of readiness preferred by the experts is Condition One. Generally speaking, Condition One offers the best balance of readiness and safety. Its biggest drawback is that it looks scary to people who don't understand the operation and safety features of the pistol.

    Condition Two is problematic for several reasons, and is the source of more negligent discharges than the other conditions. When you rack the slide to chamber a round in the 1911, the hammer is cocked and the manual safety is off. There is no way to avoid this with the 1911 design. In order to lower the hammer, the trigger must be pulled and the hammer lowered slowly with the thumb onto the firing pin, the end of which is only a few millimeters away from the primer of a live round. Should the thumb slip, the hammer would drop and fire the gun. Not only would a round be launched in circumstances which would be at best embarrassing and possibly tragic, but also the thumb would be behind the slide as it cycled, resulting in serious injury to the hand. A second problem with this condition is that the true 1911A1 does not have a firing pin block and an impact on the hammer which is resting on the firing pin could conceivably cause the gun to go off, although actual instances of this are virtually nonexistent. Finally, in order to fire the gun, the hammer must be manually cocked, again with the thumb. In an emergency situation, this adds another opportunity for something to go wrong and slows the acquisition of the sight picture.

    Condition Three adds a degree of "insurance" against an accidental discharge since there is no round in the chamber. To bring the gun into action from the holster, the pistol must be drawn and the slide racked as the pistol is brought to bear on the target. This draw is usually called "the Israeli draw" since it was taught by Israeli security and defense forces. Some of the real expert trainers can do an Israeli draw faster than most of us can do a simple draw, but for most of us, the Israeli draw adds a degree of complexity, an extra step, and an opening for mistakes in the process of getting the front sight onto the target.

    Paul Bonelli

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    Cocked & Locked

    Gentlemen, Though I'm new here on the forum I've carried for almost 60 yrs. I do like the 1911 and yes cocked & locked. Did you also realize that your other models are also cocked & locked? You just cannot see it.
    Peaceful

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    My 2 cents- Become very familiar with your 1911 and train (preferably with a professional) to operate that gun in condition one- that's the way it was designed to be used. I've carried one in excess of 15 years (condition one) and never had an issue.

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    Nope, if your pistol is in proper condition you should have no worries.
    GIs did it for years with no problems.

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