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    Question True 1911

    Do you 1911 guys consider the LDA's by Para true 1911's?

    yea or nay..........

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    Based on but not exactly

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    Para's triggers sure aren't original 1911, as mr. Brown had intended them to be

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    Not a true 1911 in my opinion but a tremendously admirable variant. I'd love to own an LDA! I love double action pistols and having a sorta-1911 that's DA is a heavenly thought. Jeff Cooper would've loved it.

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    Being a DA weapon that alone says it's not exactly a 1911 in the most pure sense of the word. Just like one chambered in anything but 45ACP is not. Para took a few liberties with the design trying to address issues some shooters had with the traditional 1911.

    Ramped barrels, DA actions, different calibers are all to make the weapon appeal to shooters that might like a 1911 if it just had this..or that. Even the way the LTC's grip safety not going flush with the back strap was done because some shooters complained about memory pad grip safeties. The use a smooth one but altered the frame to keep it out a little more ensuring it is going to engage properly.

    They make a heck of a weapon and the LDA is no exception. One thing that got me looking at Para Ord. was they sell a lot of pistols. But how many do you see used? Not many. That tells me that people tend to keep them. I have two at the moment and really want a Blackwatch Companion. I've never fired an officers model 1911 that felt better and I have a Colt Officers Model (One day I"ll sell that thing if I ever get the nerve..lol).

    If you ever get a chance to fire an LDA you will love it. It's not near the pull or travel you would expect. It's really fun to shoot one.
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    Not a true 1911 trigger system, but 1911 inspired design for a DAO pistol.. Though it's not a full 1911, it has 1911 ergonomics and bore-axis geometry. An excellent "alternative" to cocked and locked carry. I'd love to have one.. But I also very much appreciate a good 1911 single action trigger. But the LDA basically provides a good alternative for simple carry in a 1911 "style" pistol.

    Still comes with a 1911 price-tag though.

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    MysterialSEO :
    And why the hell is that relevant?
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    Quote Originally Posted by babs View Post
    Not a true 1911 trigger system, but 1911 inspired design for a DAO pistol.. Though it's not a full 1911, it has 1911 ergonomics and bore-axis geometry. An excellent "alternative" to cocked and locked carry. I'd love to have one.. But I also very much appreciate a good 1911 single action trigger. But the LDA basically provides a good alternative for simple carry in a 1911 "style" pistol.

    Still comes with a 1911 price-tag though.
    Other than the ramped bbl my LTC is a true 1911. Same trigger...everything..It's a SA weapon
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    Not enough choices.
    Were the choice there, I would choose, "Silly question."

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    definatly not a true 1911.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brisk21 View Post
    definatly not a true 1911.
    Well..Why not defiantly?

    I can see where some models are not but they make a few that I could call a true 1911 and their GI Expert is a Mil Spec 1911. Can't get much more true than that.

    I'm not trying to be combative I just am a little curious as to why they "definatly not true 1911"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    Not enough choices.
    Were the choice there, I would choose, "Silly question."
    Yah but what did you choose........ or you just brousing?

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    For me, the answer is no. The 1911 as designed by Mr. Browning is the 1911. Anything other than his design is an offshoot of the 1911. I like Para's. Love to have a couple of P14's with cross draw shoulder holsters. But, I carry a 1911 daily.

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    Thanks to the GENTLEMEN who are answering; I'm only a few months into 1911 formats and do have a single action trigger set ups and a few LDA's .....want to know what the community's take on the LDA IS VS SINGLE ACTION.

    Again thanks Guys,
    Khegg

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    The para LDA trigger is nothing like any other DA weapon you will see. The pull is longer of course but the pull is really light. I'm really wanting one of the Blackwatch Companion LDS's A friend of mine has one doe CC. I didn't think I'd like it when I first seen it but it's really changed my mind once I fired it. I had been looking at a Springer EMP but could have the Para and be really happy.

    Bottom line is a good SA trigger is about as good as it gets. It has next to no travel and if it's worked just right they are really light. Some people don't like the cocked and locked thing with a 1911 so the LDA fills that niche really well. You still have the safety(s) but you have a little more travel and that makes people a little more comfortable. I like a good SA trigger but there is no denying the LDA is a great system. I wouldn't want it for a range toy but for a carry weapon it works really well. Of the two I have got to shoot (Companion and Tac-Four) I really liked how they shot. The Carry 9 (Link) is fantastic for those that don't want a 45 ACP but I can tell you after shooting the two LDA's I shot the recoil on them is not much at all and I really don't understand why. Especially that Companion. It had less flip them my LTC that is a good bit larger. But a 45 is not for everyone (more ammo for me!! )

    I don't think there are a lot of Para Ord shooters on this forum but but those that dod really like them. The one thing that made me look at them to begin with was looking around shops and places like gunbroker you just don't see many used Para pistols. That tells me that people must be holding on to them which is a huge endorsement to me.

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    A Para DA?

    No- not by a longshot.

































    But this one is, complete with driver, carboard box, mags in heavy waxed paper, lanyard loop, black oxide finish, flat mainspring and propper roll marks.


    Gettum while they're hot- max run of 4000.



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    CLANGER..................What is that brand?? nice GI setup.

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    The Carry 9 looks like about as sweet a little concealable 9mm as you can get.


    I tell ya, if I had 9 bills in the budget at the show where I picked up my XD, I would have left with the Tac Four. I had a hard time handing that thing back to the guy. If they weren't as much as an entry level AR, I'd be all over it.. though I do know you get what you pay for in US made 1911's.

    13+1 carry length.. NICE ..

    But now I am becoming a fan of the good ole' single-stack 1911 grip.. ie the "Companion"..
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    Lightbulb

    Quote Originally Posted by khegglie View Post
    CLANGER..................What is that brand?? nice GI setup.
    Opps- forgot to mention the maker....

    It's a COLT.


    https://www.galleryofguns.com/Genie/...spx?item=O1918

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    The two Para's I own now really make me want another one. The LTC is a great carry weapon and is great on the range.

    I've got to shoot the companion and Tac-Four. Really nice...That's all I can say.

    Quote Originally Posted by babs View Post
    The Carry 9 looks like about as sweet a little concealable 9mm as you can get.


    I tell ya, if I had 9 bills in the budget at the show where I picked up my XD, I would have left with the Tac Four. I had a hard time handing that thing back to the guy. If they weren't as much as an entry level AR, I'd be all over it.. though I do know you get what you pay for in US made 1911's.

    13+1 carry length.. NICE ..

    But now I am becoming a fan of the good ole' single-stack 1911 grip.. ie the "Companion"..

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