View Poll Results: How many failures has your 1911 had since break-in?

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  • 0 - None, Nada, No Problems

    189 66.08%
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    57 19.93%
  • 6 - 10

    12 4.20%
  • 11 - 20

    8 2.80%
  • 20+ - I quit counting

    10 3.50%
  • Its a PITA/I had to sell it

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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by zhurdan View Post
    Sorry, I'm just pissy... still.
    Truth be known, that's what started this thread to begin with: Kept hearing folk talk about the unreliability of the 1911.

    But it was always phrased as "a friend/acquaintance's" gun, or something someone saw somewhere.

    I'm happy with mine, and couldn't believe that if 1911 failed all the time that they would be such a big part of gun sales.

    So I launched this unscientific poll to see what real owner's of 1911's were experiencing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhurdan View Post
    Ok... I should have clarified. I'm approaching about 30k thru my 1911.

    Please note, I never said anyone was a liar, I just said something isn't adding up.

    I meticulously maintain my gun, new springs, with spares in the bag. Good lube and good cleaning regimen. I've had 40 stoppages over those ~30k rounds.

    I guess I just get tired of hearing terms like "flawless" and "perfect" and "unbelievable" from people that shoot 300 rounds thru their gun and call it hard use and seeing 77% of the vote going to zero stoppages. It just doesn't add up on one level or another.

    Sorry, I'm just pissy... still.
    Heh..Man I wasn't trying to come off mad or accusing anything. I just thought I'd try to clarify my earlier posts in how my pistols act. I can't speak to anyone others posts because I never see any of y'all at my house which is where I do most of my shooting.

    I do agree... A handgun is not been used in my opinion until you get a couple thousand rounds through it anyway. To me if 200-300 rounds it's still new. under 500 rounds you wont even know most of the weapons traits because it's just too new.

  3. #123
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    I have put 2000 round through my Taurus 1911 and never had an issue. I have heard horror stories, but not a hicup with mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dondavis3 View Post
    A lot of .45 brands do not have the following (you can get all of this installed from your gunsmiths):

    Made entirely in the Kimber Custom Shop.
    Night Sights, Meprolight Tritium 3-dot night sights.
    Compact and Pro Carry pistols have 4-inch bushingless match grade bull barrels.
    Barrels and chambers are match grade for accuracy.
    Breech faces are polished.
    Ejection ports are lowered and flared for reliable function.
    Slides are machined from solid stainless steel and given a satin finish that will not reflect light.
    Compact Stainless II has a shorter frame yet retains 7-round magazine capacity. 8 rounds is a Wilson Combat Magazine.
    Kimber aluminum frames have been lab tested to over 20,000 rounds without evidence of meaningful wear.
    All Compact and Pro Carry pistols use a proven single recoil spring design.
    Available with steel, stainless steel or lightweight aluminum frames that reduce overall weight.
    Crimson Trace® Lasergrips.
    Tactical Rail.
    Deep front strap checkering 30 lines-per-inch.
    Deep rear strap checkering 30 lines-per-inch.
    Deep trigger front grooving.
    Deep bottom trigger guard checkering 30 lines-per-inch.
    Checkered flat mainspring housing.
    Match grade Premium Aluminum Trigger
    Sights and edges are rounded and blended for easy carry w/o snagging clothing.
    Beveled magazine well.
    Magazine release button is extended for fast reloading.
    Match grade trigger breaks clean and consistently every time.
    Extended ambidextrous thumb safety.
    Kimber aluminum frames are machined from solid blocks of 7075-T7 aluminum to the same critical dimensions as the steel frames.

    The S&W .45 I carried on duty had almost none of these - I added a lot to it .

    As I said before - you can get all of this on almost any .45 with the help of a gunsmith & after market parts , but it's available straight from the factory when you buy the Kimber I bought.

    90% of that is done on cnc machining centers. Calling it "custom" is a bit of a stretch. When they make thousands just like it.

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    Still waiting for the catastrophic life altering failure which will forever make me rue the day I use a 1911.

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    oak1971

    If you don't like the word "custom" fine then use another word - no body cares - you missed the point or didn't read it well..

    But the things that are listed are not done to most standard 1911 (that's what I said).

    And as I said most can be added later by a gunsmith (again what I said)

    But they cost extra to do (as I said).

    Have a nice day



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    While I have had no problems with my 1911, I will admit I don't shoot it much, less than a 1000 rounds through it. 45 ammo is friggen hi here so I shoot 9mm.
    Having said that, my next pistol purchase will be the Para 18-9 which is a 1911 that shoots 9mm. So next year I will be able to give the same answer but have lots of range time on it

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    I've had a couple over the years that ran perfectly from the factory- the first two to come to mind are a Springfield Armory TRP Operator and a TRP. I've been in the 1911 game for quite a few years and the platform can be very reliable, but I've found that generally, non custom 1911s require a few tweaks before they're truly reliable (1000 rounds or more with no malfunctions).


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    One half the Colts are used and the others are Wilsons; I have no problem that I couldn't fix my own.

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    Have 5 1911's 2 springfields, 2 colts, and one custom target long slide currently as shooters. My first Colt bought new in 1976 had one break down after near 5000 rnds. when the sear broke, easy repair and only problem I've had to date.

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    Like you said, since break-in. That included, new recoil spring, new magazine spring and follower. Hate polymer followers and love metal like JMB designed. Now it( My Detonics Combat Master) runs like a fine tuned piece of machineryh. Just like I knew it could.

    Bill

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    My RIA A1 has never missed a lick,

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    I had 1 stove pipe on my trp (operator). It was the last round in the clip and I am thinking that I may have limp wristed it a little because I knew it was the last round. The round went where I pointed but it stove piped none the less. It was also 2 year old defense ammo I was burning up. (rem gold sabre)

    The TRP (operator) probably hasn't had or is close to having 1000 rounds through it. I would imagine that it is plenty broken in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wandering Man View Post
    I'm just curious, is my gun the only 1911 that runs flawlessly?

    Since its break-in period (500 - 700 rounds), how many failures have you had with your 1911?

    Please elaborate:

    What gun were you shooting? Delta Elite

    Had it been cleaned and lubed recently? Yes

    How many rounds between cleanings before choking? 65+/-

    What ammo did it choke on? PMC

    Please, don't tell us about your "friend's" gun or the "friend of a friend's" gun. I want to hear directly from 1911 shooters.

    Thanks,

    WM
    I determined that at that time (I had purchased it used from a dealer) that it may not have been fully broken in. It was requiring a cleaning every 50+ rounds.

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    Had my first one last night after the bowling pin shoot. Failure to feed. 230 LRN, 8.1 gr AA#5 (Missouri bullets). More testing to follow. I had shot approx 60 rds up to that point, with no issues, aside from my poor performance.
    Pistol in question is a SA Trophy Match w/ approx 800 to 900 total rds through it. Only other possible issue was I was using a new magazine (Wilson) maybe 80 total rds through it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overkill0084 View Post
    Had my first one last night after the bowling pin shoot. Failure to feed. 230 LRN, 8.1 gr AA#5 (Missouri bullets). More testing to follow. I had shot approx 60 rds up to that point, with no issues, aside from my poor performance.
    Pistol in question is a SA Trophy Match w/ approx 800 to 900 total rds through it. Only other possible issue was I was using a new magazine (Wilson) maybe 80 total rds through it.
    If you are going to use LRN's, it's worth it to buy the Wolff recoil spring to aide in feeding them. I did and my 4" chews thru the LRN's now with no issue. Also, after that many rounds, you're probably due for a recoil spring replacement anyhow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhurdan View Post
    If you are going to use LRN's, it's worth it to buy the Wolff recoil spring to aide in feeding them. I did and my 4" chews thru the LRN's now with no issue. Also, after that many rounds, you're probably due for a recoil spring replacement anyhow.
    I've shot mostly Cast bullets to this point. I've not have any other problems. I haven't checked it out yet. It could just be some crud/bullet lube build-up on the feed ramp. I will be cleaning/inspecting it this evening. I will check the ammo as well, maybe I left something out of spec. Unlikely, but possible.
    While a different weight spring may be appropriate, I seriously doubt that the current one is worn out after less than 1000 rds. Especially considering that my loads are comfortably under max. The only factory stuff I've used is WWB & Fed Champion, not terribly hot stuff. I would think 2000 to 2500 rds would not be an unreasonable expectation for a decent recoil spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overkill0084 View Post
    I've shot mostly Cast bullets to this point. I've not have any other problems. I haven't checked it out yet. It could just be some crud/bullet lube build-up on the feed ramp. I will be cleaning/inspecting it this evening. I will check the ammo as well, maybe I left something out of spec. Unlikely, but possible.
    While a different weight spring may be appropriate, I seriously doubt that the current one is worn out after less than 1000 rds. Especially considering that my loads are comfortably under max. The only factory stuff I've used is WWB & Fed Champion, not terribly hot stuff. I would think 2000 to 2500 rds would not be an unreasonable expectation for a decent recoil spring.
    Yeah, perhaps. On a 5 inch gun it's not as bad, but on shorter 1911's, springs are like diapers. Use 'em up then throw 'em out and replace with a fresh one.

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    I cleaned it last night when I got off work. Careful inspection revealed nothing amiss w/ the pistol. There was an odd wear spot on the Mag follower and it's only had about 80 rds through it. The mag is a Wilson w/ a plastic follower. The round that jammed had a ding on the bullet that may or may not have contributed to the issue. I can't tell if it was the cause or the result.
    I will test it it out when I have time to see if I can repeat the malfunction. The odd wear on the mag follower makes me lean toward a mag issue.

    Update: Upon further review, I believe that the pain is self inflicted. My lack of attention to detail in the reloading process. I adjusted the Seat/Crimp die for a more aggressive crimp, and the problem got better. Lee Factory Crimp die inbound. It was also suggested by a knowledgable friend that I consider changing to a slightly heavier recoil spring (18.5) i.e. slam the door shut harder. Worth a test anyway.

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    Only three relating to magazine problems. Last round was jumping the feed lips and the pistol was locking back as empty. A Wilson 7 rounder and 2 Old Colt (1970s) magazines cured it.

    This is with my Lightweight Government Model from Colt.

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