View Poll Results: Which Premium Production 1911 and Why?

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  • Springfield Armory Loaded Target Stainless

    47 42.73%
  • Kimber Gold Match Stainless II

    42 38.18%
  • Smith and Wesson SW1911 DK

    21 19.09%
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    Just givin' you a hard time, bac. I am not the most humble person on the face of the planet, as many here will attest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham View Post
    Just givin' you a hard time, bac. I am not the most humble person on the face of the planet, as many here will attest.
    Now here's one of Mike's posts I can agree with completely!

    Can I get a +1 Brothers & Sisters???
    Last edited by James NM; 05-20-2008 at 05:54 PM.

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    Hey Bac, what about the Dan Wesson Pointman Seven? Looks like a real steal!

    http://www.danwessonfirearms.com/pro...tail.php?id=65

    The Pointman Seven is a 5” series 70 style 1911 featuring a stainless steel frame and forged stainless steel slide. Like all Dan Wesson 1911s, Pointman models incorporate top quality parts from the best names in the industry

    Forged, one piece match grade barrel and bushing.
    Round top slide with Bo-Mar style adjustable target sight
    Hand polished flat surfaces with contrasting bead blasted rounds
    Flat, all steel 20-LPI checkered mainspring housing
    Front and rear cocking serrations
    Beveled magwell
    All sharp edges dehorned by hand
    Lowered and flared ejection port
    Hand polished feed ramp
    Ed Brown slide stop
    Ed Brown memory groove grip safety
    Tactical extended thumb safety
    One piece full length stainless guide rod
    Commander style match hammer
    Match grade sear
    Aluminum trigger with stainless bow
    Extended serrated magazine catch
    Wolff springs used exclusively
    Diamond checkered coco-bolo grips
    Tuned, machined, internal extractor
    Test fired for reliability
    38 ounces unloaded

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred40 View Post
    Hey Bac, what about the Dan Wesson Pointman Seven? Looks like a real steal!

    http://www.danwessonfirearms.com/pro...tail.php?id=65

    The Pointman Seven is a 5” series 70 style 1911
    Beautiful finish on DWs. Plus I like the lack of a firing pin safety and no MIM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred40 View Post
    Hey Bac, what about the Dan Wesson Pointman Seven? Looks like a real steal!

    http://www.danwessonfirearms.com/pro...tail.php?id=65

    The Pointman Seven is a 5” series 70 style 1911 featuring a stainless steel frame and forged stainless steel slide. Like all Dan Wesson 1911s, Pointman models incorporate top quality parts from the best names in the industry

    Forged, one piece match grade barrel and bushing.
    Round top slide with Bo-Mar style adjustable target sight
    Hand polished flat surfaces with contrasting bead blasted rounds
    Flat, all steel 20-LPI checkered mainspring housing
    Front and rear cocking serrations
    Beveled magwell
    All sharp edges dehorned by hand
    Lowered and flared ejection port
    Hand polished feed ramp
    Ed Brown slide stop
    Ed Brown memory groove grip safety
    Tactical extended thumb safety
    One piece full length stainless guide rod
    Commander style match hammer
    Match grade sear
    Aluminum trigger with stainless bow
    Extended serrated magazine catch
    Wolff springs used exclusively
    Diamond checkered coco-bolo grips
    Tuned, machined, internal extractor
    Test fired for reliability
    38 ounces unloaded

    The Pointman is great, as is the entire Dan Wesson line. I have the CBOB.






    I plan on getting a Valor, which is an upgrade over the PM and CBOB, and in the class of some of the other 1911s I listed as being premium production models.

    I would consider the CBOB and Pointman lower mid range 1911s, albeit very good quality guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bac1023 View Post
    I plan on getting a Valor, which is an upgrade over the PM and CBOB, and in the class of some of the other 1911s I listed as being premium production models.
    I don't see the Valor on the website??

    What is the trigger weight on the CBOB?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred40 View Post
    I don't see the Valor on the website??

    What is the trigger weight on the CBOB?
    The Trigger feels to be about 4-5 lbs.

    The Valor is brand new and didn't make it to CZ's website yet. Its DW's new top of the line 1911.

    Here's a generic Valor pic. Its stainless with a black Teflon finish. I think its beautiful. Right now, they are hard to come by, however.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bac1023 View Post
    Right now, they are hard to come by, however.
    Only 200 will be made this year.

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    Les Baer. Mine will be here in a month.

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    This is totally off topic but every time I open this thread my AVG software tells me that there is two viruses in somebody's Photobucket links. Never had this happen before and it list two links or photos infected.

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    I'm not sure what the "DK" means, but I would personally choose the S&W. I was in the market for a Springfield Loaded, until i found the SW1911. That gun just felt so much better to me in every way. And thats just the $830 version, not this "DK" model. Its all just personal preference i guess, but thats how I feel about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFgsm View Post
    I'm not sure what the "DK" means
    DK stands for Doug Koenig, a competitive shooter. S&W is his sponsor. No major wins since 2003. Apparently S&W 1911DK is their competition 1911.

    Then again, I like Todd Jarrett better but that alone won't motivate me to get a Para Ordnance.

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    So, my made in Brazil, Springfield PX9151LP Loaded is at the bottom of the food chain... now you tell me!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ Outlaws View Post
    So, my made in Brazil, Springfield PX9151LP Loaded is at the bottom of the food chain... now you tell me!!!
    You are comparing a $1,000 service gun to the $1,500 competition guns in the poll.

    I shouldn't worry...

    Both Kimber and S&W use a Swartz Safety FPB. Swartz's are finicky about grip safety alignment to allow you to fire. Kimber's Swartz uses a small plunger pin that is prone to shearing. One more thing to worry about when competing.

    Springfields have no FPB and use a titanium firing pin instead. Yours has a forged frame, slide and barrel.

    All three in the poll have MIM internals that is unacceptable in a $1,500 gun.

    At the price you paid for yours, you can have a gunsmith replace all the MIM with tool steel and still have money left over, confident your gun is more reliable than those in the poll.

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    Best 1911

    "In your price range, I'd suggest an STI Targetmaster. For the money, you can afford a full on competition gun (MSRP 1,440) and one of the best values for a bull barrel 1911. STI has one of the best 1911 actions in the industry and is the go-to supplier for 1911 pattern race guns. "

    If price is not an obstacle, which 1911 would you buy, including true custom models?

    Thank you.

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    +1 for the cbob i love mine

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    Have to say the Springer. I have two and they are two of the best pistols I have ever had
    Neither has yet to not do what it's supposed to do over thousands of rounds. Are they the best? Depends on how you look at things. I've had 1911's that cost em a whole lot more and were supposed to be "top of the line" but failed on more than one occasion and made me not trust them 100%....So they had to go away. My 9mm is a Brazil gun ..the other is an older used to be middle of the road 45 ACP pistol that was rebuilt by me and a tool maker friend of mine. I have no idea what it would sell for..It's priceless to me though. That's the great thing about 1911's. There's so much you can do to them to make each one unique. I have never looked at a 1911 in the box without thinking what I will want to do to it to make it my own. It would do my no good to buy some custom shop gun. I don't want to trust someone elses work when I can take it and do what I want and I know exactly what was done and how it's going to perform
    Last edited by DevilsJohnson; 07-26-2008 at 11:59 PM.

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    Springfield TRP 1300 and it's got lots of custom features. Some hand fitting and 2 inch accuracy at 25 yards.

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    double post

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    Sometimes S&W have some major sales and you could probably get an S&W performance center model for around $1400 or a little more.

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