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      They're comfy guns, but I'd take an actual P90 over the PS90. About $2k more, but select-fire capable and damn fine to have in close-quarters. Even though it was designed as a PDW (Personal Defense Weapon), it's been mainly used in the exact opposite capacity, and quite admirably. Most police instances where the weapon has been used (including with it's pistol counterpart) have resulted in the 5.7 round not leaving the person shot with it and causing horrific (almost always lethal) wounds. No overpenetration problems, great ability to punch through doors and walls but stop in people, all sorts of goodness.

      And hey, it's small enough that it almost counts as a select-fire handgun. Just haven't seen any IWB holsters for them yet.


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      Cool

      I want an FN P-90

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      Quote Originally Posted by BAC View Post
      They're comfy guns, but I'd take an actual P90 over the PS90. About $2k more, but select-fire capable and damn fine to have in close-quarters. Even though it was designed as a PDW (Personal Defense Weapon), it's been mainly used in the exact opposite capacity, and quite admirably. Most police instances where the weapon has been used (including with it's pistol counterpart) have resulted in the 5.7 round not leaving the person shot with it and causing horrific (almost always lethal) wounds. No overpenetration problems, great ability to punch through doors and walls but stop in people, all sorts of goodness.

      And hey, it's small enough that it almost counts as a select-fire handgun. Just haven't seen any IWB holsters for them yet.


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      Actually, the real P90 is around the same cost as the PS90. It isn't $2k more. It's just that because of Govt laws and rules, we can't get them. Only military, law enforcement and a Class 3 dealer can get their hands on 1.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
      Actually, the real P90 is around the same cost as the PS90. It isn't $2k more. It's just that because of Govt laws and rules, we can't get them. Only military, law enforcement and a Class 3 dealer can get their hands on 1.
      The price doesn't seem to have gone down much anywhere I look; that's fine though, since the cost of ammo alone makes me blanch. Love the gun, love the round, but the price reeks of capitalistic greed. Bah.

      If offered though, it's one I'd gladly pay the $200 tax on to register it with BATFE. I'd rate it as one of the most effective methods of close-quarters defense (out to 150m) and assault out there, but only based on preliminary feel of it. Haven't had the chance to really put it through paces or "get dirty" with one yet.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Mike Barham at Galco View Post
      My colleage at Galco, who posts here, often accuses me of being too practical and never having any fun. Maybe he's right.
      HA!!

      I keep telling you, its not just about taking out the trash, shooting is fun.
      I shot the SIG556 and the FN FS2000 this weekend(and the Garand of course). Both were interesting guns and fun to shoot.
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      If it chambered a .223 I think I would be very tempted to take out a second mortgage and pick one up but I have to go with the guys who have an issue with cost of ammo and the ammo itself. I’m not even that big of a fan of the .223 but IMHO 5.7 is just too small a round and for the cost it’s just too much for going out and having a good time. All that being said it would be cool to actually shoot one, I have held them but never gotten to go out and shoot it.

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      The PS90 does nothing for me visually. IMO the PS90 and the Beretta CX4 are the two most ugly "rifles" out there today. And if I don't like the look of a gun, no matter how great the caliber or how comfortable it is, I won't even entertain buying one.

      I'll stick with my AR. That's a damn fine lookin' gun!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
      The PS90 does nothing for me visually. IMO the PS90 and the Beretta CX4 are the two most ugly "rifles" out there today. And if I don't like the look of a gun, no matter how great the caliber or how comfortable it is, I won't even entertain buying one.

      I'll stick with my AR. That's a damn fine lookin' gun!
      Well, funny U say that - the only other rifle I like is the Beretta CX4. I have another EOtech and a sling for it, and the CX4 Storm is my next gun purchase - in the next month (just looking for a good deal)

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
      Well, funny U say that - the only other rifle I like is the Beretta CX4. I have another EOtech and a sling for it, and the CX4 Storm is my next gun purchase - in the next month (just looking for a good deal)
      Say it isn't so.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
      Well, funny U say that - the only other rifle I like is the Beretta CX4. I have another EOtech and a sling for it, and the CX4 Storm is my next gun purchase - in the next month (just looking for a good deal)
      Ha I was going to say something to this effect, for me the only real draw of the Ps90 is its looks and the way it feels when you shoulder it. The Cx4 is also a very cool good feeling gun but again the fact that its chambering a 9, 40, or 45(I think) kinda makes it about as useful as my sidearm Ill be it a bit more accurate (ok a lot more accurate) and really with the CX4 you can only have like I think a 20 round Mag... Just not practical but very cool... it’s amazing how often those to things coincide.

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      Thumbs down ummmmm, I wouldn't want on either...

      Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
      The PS90 does nothing for me visually. IMO the PS90 and the Beretta CX4 are the two most ugly "rifles" out there today.

      I'll stick with my AR.


      ~ in a word .... "no". I too will stick with my AR's.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Joeshwa24 View Post
      Ha I was going to say something to this effect, for me the only real draw of the Ps90 is its looks and the way it feels when you shoulder it. The Cx4 is also a very cool good feeling gun but again the fact that its chambering a 9, 40, or 45(I think) kinda makes it about as useful as my sidearm Ill be it a bit more accurate (ok a lot more accurate) and really with the CX4 you can only have like I think a 20 round Mag... Just not practical but very cool... it’s amazing how often those to things coincide.
      Well, a 20 round mag for a rifle ain't bad - an AR typically has only a 30 round mag.

      I love my PS90 and the 50 round mag. And, to me, its more ergonomic than any other rifle. But, even when finding the ammo at a good price ($17 or so per box of 50), it is expensive to shoot.

      I want the 9mm CX4 because it's almost 1/3 the price to shoot. And, I like the looks and the light weight. I've been tempted to buy an AR many times this year. I've passed every time. I even thought that I'd get the Sig 556 - in order to have the piston option. But once I held it, I found it too front heavy...

      Sorry guys... I'll have my CX4 soon and my PS90 - and that will be my only 2 rifles...

      I was going to get a FN Bolt action rifle until I found out how much 308 ammo costs...

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      Thumbs up ray guns

      ~ both of those "weapons" have the appearance of a bad movie props out of the Star Wars movie bars scene.

      ~ prehaps maybe even the "AMC Pacers" of the gun world .

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lowdrift View Post
      ~ both of those "weapons" have the appearance of a bad movie props out of the Star Wars movie bars scene.

      ~ prehaps maybe even the "AMC Pacers" of the gun world .
      Well, that's your opinion. Feel free to say you don't like something. We all have our likes and dislikes. But don't run down stuff. That's sorta against the spirit of the forum here.

      Plenty of brands and guns I don't like and would not want even if ya gave me one. But, when someone posts up their pic and shows what they just bought - I congratulate them just the same...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lowdrift View Post
      ~ perhaps maybe even the "AMC Pacers" of the gun world .

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      Ok, Ship. I actually wouldn't mind having one. If it weren't for the steep price and all the other things on my list I might consider it. The small round doesn't bother me so much, since there really isn't a practical use for the gun as far as I can tell - that round is definitely inadequate for deer. Of course, I'll need to get my AR first...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
      Well, that's your opinion. Feel free to say you don't like something. We all have our likes and dislikes. But don't run down stuff. That's sorta against the spirit of the forum here.
      I think you're being a bit overly sensitive here. You posted a pic of your gun not with a simple caption like "Here's my new gun" but with, "C'mon-You know you want one". A caption like that is not going to get simple congratulatory remarks. People are going to give their thoughts on the gun. You fanned the flames with that caption and now you're crying foul when people are giving their opinions about the looks of the gun or the caliber? It's a bit unrealistic to expect people to reply with only "Great gun!"
      Last edited by Todd; 11-16-2007 at 08:33 AM.

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      Ok... I'm rather tired of the 5.7 cartridge and the guns that shoot it getting constantly ripped by guys who just repeat what they've heard about it.

      But never mind... The gun sucks if you don't like it. Don't buy one if you don't like it. It's the most horrible gun in the world if you don't like it. The gun is so ugly unless you like it.

      Don't read this thread. I was a fool for suggesting that this gun was cool and that others would want one. What was I thinking. I "left" myself open for wide spread ridicule by people who can't be polite. Damn, I'm an idiot.

      Never mind...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shipwreck View Post
      Ok... I'm rather tired of the 5.7 cartridge and the guns that shoot it getting constantly ripped by guys who just repeat what they've heard about it.

      But never mind... The gun sucks if you don't like it. Don't buy one if you don't like it. It's the most horrible gun in the world if you don't like it. The gun is so ugly unless you like it.

      Don't read this thread. I was a fool for suggesting that this gun was cool and that others would want one. What was I thinking. I "left" myself open for wide spread ridicule by people who can't be polite. Damn, I'm an idiot.

      Never mind...
      And the Oscar goes to .....


      Cut the melodrama. There wasn't anyone who said the gun sucked or it was the most horrible gun in the world or ripped the cartridge (other than questioning its ability to take down a deer), or ridiculed you personally for getting the gun. You posted the pic on an open forum and people gave their honest opinions. I know I'm not going to be a "yes man" and tell you it's the most beautiful gun in the world. I didn't comment on the cartridge because I don't know enough about it to speak intelligently on the subject, but I do know what appeals to me ascetically and it's not the PS90. I think the thing is absolutely hideous. You may think my AR is hideous. That's your right. Franky, you should be a little more secure about yourself and shouldn't give a rat's ass what people think about your gun; if it works for you then great. Who cares what other people think? I know I could care less what 99% of the people on this forum think of my guns or me. The bottom line is, you put it out there on the forum, expect responses you may not like. Don't get all pissy because people challenge the looks or the caliber or price or whatever. You've been on enough forums and on this one long enough to know that everyone was not going to just jump on the bandwagon and fall in love with the PS90 just because you have one. To expect only people who love the gun to respond to your post is very naive.
      Last edited by Todd; 11-16-2007 at 03:07 PM.

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      No melodrama... Just being honest

      I suck. So does my gun.

      There - a new bite for the 10 pm news.

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