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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.E.fromLincoln View Post
    We do need a couple of new amendments:
    One that states that a Senator or Representative may sit only two terms in office, after which, there will be a 10 year moratorium between terms as a congressman and working as a lobbyist...
    We shouldn't need a constitutional amendment to do this. "Term limits" are built-into the act of voting.
    If idiots still keep electing fools, term after term, then we need to educate either the idiots or the foolsóor both. Or, maybe, we need to become somewhat more politically active.


    Quote Originally Posted by jakeleinen1 View Post
    Honestly, I'm starting to understand why things are the way they are. Stupid people have us outnumbered, no wonder our vote doesn't count... Why would they leave important decisions like who should be our leaders up to a population filled with retards (overall I mean)?
    The Founders required one to own property (that is, land) before being allowed to vote. The minimum voting age was set at 21 years.
    We have allowed the Progressives to change this radically, to the country's detriment.
    Jake, you are young, and maybe you won't like this: I firmly believe that we should raise the voting age back to 21, or maybe even 25. I also firmly believe that we should re-institute some sort of financial requirement, for instance that one must have paid federal income tax for the year previous to being allowed to vote. I would leave it to the several states, whether to require payment of state income tax to be allowed to vote (for instance: Washington has no income tax).

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    As Steve mentions, there have been several questionable revisions to the Constitution, mostly in the progressive direction. Another was to popular election of Senators vs selection by State governments. If the Senators still worked for governors and state legislators there there would be no unfunded mandates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popeye7751 View Post
    The ones claiming it's outdated are ones it was written to protect us from. Pesky little things like laws,morals, and character keep getting in their way
    Another bingo.

    And once in a while one of them let's the cat out of the bag and shows their real colors. Example, this link. And they think people on the right side of the political fence are radicals.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/here...-constitution/

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    I further suggest that you follow The New York Times link, and read the op-ed piece in its original, for yourself.

    I was left so speechless that I could only repeat the famous words of that entirely-patriotic, intensely revolutionary, Oscar-winning rabbit, Bugs Bunny himself: "What a maroon! Such an embezzle! Why, he's a nin-cow-poop!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    I further suggest that you follow The New York Times link, and read the op-ed piece in its original, for yourself.

    I was left so speechless that I could only repeat the famous words of that entirely-patriotic, intensely revolutionary, Oscar-winning rabbit, Bugs Bunny himself: "What a maroon! Such an embezzle! Why, he's a nin-cow-poop!"
    I shall do that right now. You know, it's pretty clear that you and I hail from a different time with different values and a different culture than what we see permeating the current contemporary America. Truth be known, I'll be 67 this month and it saddens me to see my nation actually taking the direction the radicals prayed for in the 60's. Here's another interesting article to read when you have a moment.

    Americans never give up your guns - English pravda.ru

    Let's hope the New Year is not as stark and dreading as we may be seeing in the next few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakeleinen1 View Post
    Apparently the constitution is outdated...

    Have you heard people say this? My facebook is 'littered' with these kind of comments. Anybody else heard people say this?
    Yes, I have seen this floating around the internet too. A lot of Germans thought that the Weimar Republik was needing to be replaced by National Socialism too...until about 1943 when all the bombers started turning their Fatherland into rubble. Fools, just damn fools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy View Post
    ...[I]t's pretty clear that you and I hail from a different time with different values and a different culture than what we see permeating the current contemporary America...it saddens me to see my nation actually taking the direction the radicals prayed for in the 60's...
    I'm about to turn 75.
    I ran a leather shop during the '60s, '70s, and part of the '80s, and I did my best to educate my Hippie customersóto no real avail, because they were absolutely convinced that they were right. I can't fault them: I was exactly the same, when I was a 'teen. The difference was that, eventually, I had to start working for a living, and to learn what that meant. Meanwhile, those Hippies continued to live off of their indulgent parents, well into their 30s, after which they inherited enough to never have to seriously look poverty in the face. So they are still convinced, as only the relatively indolent can be, that Socialism and Political Correctness are the correct forms for society to takeóas long as it's forced on you, not on them (the elite).
    It wasn't the poor, who framed and constructed the Russian revolution. It was the children of the wealthy, who were the only people with the leisure to construct social fantasies, and to debate them into being. Like the Germans of 1943, they were completely surprised at the actual result of their "work." The much more vicious and politically-savvy Bolsheviks took their idealistic revolution away from them, and then stood them up against the nearest wall for terminal "political reŽducation" (see: Trotsky/Trotskyism/Trotskyite).
    So now we have at least two consecutive generations who are still convinced that some sort of all-knowing "Big Brother" government can take care of us all, without anybody being required to work very hard. After all, all we have to do is just print more money, right?

    I read the Pravda article. I'm glad that some Russians have learned the lesson. Someday, the children of our two generations of Hippies will also have learned the lesson. But our nation, and our liberties, will already have suffered terribly, just as the Russians and the Germans have.
    Jean and I won't be here, but our children will, and their children too. I wish that we could leave a better legacy of liberty for them, but their loss of it will actually be entirely their own fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve M1911A1 View Post
    I'm about to turn 75.
    I ran a leather shop during the '60s, '70s, and part of the '80s, and I did my best to educate my Hippie customers—to no real avail, because they were absolutely convinced that they were right. I can't fault them: I was exactly the same, when I was a 'teen. The difference was that, eventually, I had to start working for a living, and to learn what that meant. Meanwhile, those Hippies continued to live off of their indulgent parents, well into their 30s, after which they inherited enough to never have to seriously look poverty in the face. So they are still convinced, as only the relatively indolent can be, that Socialism and Political Correctness are the correct forms for society to take—as long as it's forced on you, not on them (the elite).
    It wasn't the poor, who framed and constructed the Russian revolution. It was the children of the wealthy, who were the only people with the leisure to construct social fantasies, and to debate them into being. Like the Germans of 1943, they were completely surprised at the actual result of their "work." The much more vicious and politically-savvy Bolsheviks took their idealistic revolution away from them, and then stood them up against the nearest wall for terminal "political reŽducation" (see: Trotsky/Trotskyism/Trotskyite).
    So now we have at least two consecutive generations who are still convinced that some sort of all-knowing "Big Brother" government can take care of us all, without anybody being required to work very hard. After all, all we have to do is just print more money, right?

    I read the Pravda article. I'm glad that some Russians have learned the lesson. Someday, the children of our two generations of Hippies will also have learned the lesson. But our nation, and our liberties, will already have suffered terribly, just as the Russians and the Germans have.
    Jean and I won't be here, but our children will, and their children too. I wish that we could leave a better legacy of liberty for them, but their loss of it will actually be entirely their own fault.
    Very well written and very true. My memory is very clear about what has taken place over the past 60 years in our country.

    Hope you and yours enjoy a comfortable and healthy new year.

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